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here's gene Stein you know the other day

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someone posted a message in our forums

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linking to an article which actually has

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a lot of interesting meaning to it and

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that is whether we would recognize bTW

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if we saw a teen okay because you know

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right now our conception of what ET is

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is fueled by what we see on TV what we

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see in the movies what we read about in

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science fiction about UFO sightings

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where we see sometimes human-like beings

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grey aliens whatever some of the science

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fiction movies paint et is being very

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very bizarre but one example I mentioned

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every so often is the one from the movie

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contact where Jodie Foster sees what is

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presumed to be ET appearing in the form

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of her late dad because that creature

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tells her she couldn't accept his or

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it's real appearance does that kind of

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put a damper on the thought of

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human-like et's out there what do you

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think I don't know I you know I think

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it's anthropomorphic of us to think that

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intelligent life out in the universe is

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gonna look anything like us I just I

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don't know I think it's wishful thinking

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on our part to uh you know to have that

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kind of reality view that everything has

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to look like us that that we are the

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boilerplate for it for life it doesn't

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make much sense to movie well the thing

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is also consider evolution I understand

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there people don't believe in evolution

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some of them have been elected to

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government to run our country but okay

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no more politics understand that now

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we're talking about science now imagine

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where we are today

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now imagine

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some kind of intelligent race that's

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been around for maybe a billion years or

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so what would they look like

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even if they started out being humanoid

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and now billion years later they're

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still around somehow what would they

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look like

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would they even have a physical

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appearance that we would recognize would

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they even be physical creatures could we

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even imagine what they'd look like a

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billion years from now so as I said if

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they start out where we are even if we

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are the blueprint that doesn't tell us

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what humans would look like a million

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years from now 100,000 years from now I

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know science fiction stories kind of

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guess would we all be robotic type

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creatures in the future we just download

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our intelligence from physical form to

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physical form and the physical form

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would be something designed for

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efficiency and I couldn't presume what

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that would be so therefore when we see

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human-like beings in connection with

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UFOs and we imagine these are space

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creatures hundreds or thousands or

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millions of years ahead of us isn't that

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also something that has got to be a

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little suspicious No yeah at least

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little well the thing I'm also about

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scientific developments and I did a

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newsletter about this we actually have a

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power cast newsletter I don't know if

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we're listeners know this but when you

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go to our site the power cast calm or

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our forums and forum brought the power

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cast calm I have a link up there for

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this weekly newsletter and you sure it's

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me ranting about something and the other

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week I ranted about something and I

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didn't get much of a reaction so

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probably was a lousy idea and that is

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would we even recognize a spacecraft

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that's representative of erased

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thousands of years ahead of us I mean

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right now

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when we think of inventions of future we

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think of Star Trek or Star Wars we think

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of things that are logical extensions of

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we have now so we think of traveling

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through the space physically they

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invented warp drive so in Star Trek you

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didn't have to spend six months six

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years or six hundred years going to a

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planet warp drive would let you go with

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air in an hour or a day or something

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like that that was what that was about

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it was a vehicle although science is

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looking into that and then of course we

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have machines like replicators to give

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us food on spaceships but we have 3d

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printers that inspired us by the way to

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build things like that or cell phones or

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tablets or things like that but would we

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recognize the technology that's

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thousands of years ahead of us would it

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look like anything we could even

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understand forget about whether we can

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understand the appearance of space

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people could we understand the evidence

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of their technology I mean if you took

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your 747 and landed it somewhere in the

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14th century would they recognize it for

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what it was pretty doubtful but this is

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the point I'm making

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I like that Chris is just being

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agreeable today but he's still

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recovering from that lung ailment that

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he had a couple of weeks back it set him

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in the hospital so I'm not asking him to

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do very much you know he'll just be

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coming in here he'll be a cheerleader

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March 13th the 20th anniversary of the

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Phoenix lights I invited someone who is

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I guess the main evangelist for that

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particular case good word appropriate I

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call her a breathless evangelist because

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she starts talking and you have to

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Lin kita I mean she's a very nice woman

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testy when I brought up some articles in

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phoenix new times that disputed the

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reality of the phoenix lights but the

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key is here i think there was nobody on

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this planet who was more eager to tell

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us the story I also thought for a moment

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there and you get a physical or

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something I don't know what her

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specialty was whether she was a general

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practice or what I think she told me a

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long time ago and I forgotten it's a

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sign of old age can you imagine Chris

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you go in there and she spends about two

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first open minds version of the UFO

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researcher Joshua Warren who spent on

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the para cast before and a few moments

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will talk to you about a course that

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he's going to be teaching and we're

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gonna ask whether he sort of got sucked

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into that or something he originated and

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what's going to mean and what it might

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mean for our listeners if they sign up

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but I was talking to Chris about

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something in our introductory session

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maybe you want to pick up on something I

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was thinking about here and that is you

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know when we're talking about UFOs and

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strange being seen occasionally in

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connection with sightings whether we

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would ever even recognize et as being

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something that would be from another

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planet or anything we could even

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recognize what's your take on that I

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mean we think of you know space people

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being kind of a variation of us are you

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asking me or Chris I asked Chris already

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he's already has a chance for you oh

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well first off thank you very much for

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having me on the program it's just a

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delight to be back with you and you know

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what I think that is a wonderful

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question because we are so egocentric

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that we tend to look at anything we

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don't understand and try to reduce it

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down to human terms and human

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perspectives I think you're absolutely

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right there's no way that we can truly

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comprehend what life is in general much

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less how life might sort of materialize

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in some other environment far away in

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space in fact I I think it's really

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interesting to look at the most strict

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materialistic atheistic rationalistic

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scientist out there or

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scientists if you want to call them that

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guys who don't believe in anything

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except what they can look at under a

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microscope and measure and put in the

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test tube and they have these huge

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budgets they have giant telescopes

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they're looking out there as deeply as

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far as they can into this infinite

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blackness and they're telling us that we

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don't see anything else like Earth that

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has people running around on it

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therefore they have to admit that even

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from their own standards the most

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paranormal thing in the universe is life

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itself therefore we have to understand

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that what's happening here is a very

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strange unique thing by anybody's

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standards and so finding the equivalent

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of that out there would take forms that

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we just can't imagine the point being

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here is we're looking for humans or

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something similar even then if we find a

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planet that has hospitable surface

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conditions for life as we know or at

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least as far as we can determine from

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our vantage point we would necessarily

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see them scurrying around yeah you're

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absolutely right we're always looking at

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creatures and trying to turn them into

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humans you know we do that here on our

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own planet it's obviously a funny and

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comical thing that we often do taking

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some take a dog and put a little remote

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control mouth on it and make it look

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like it's speaking speaking like a human

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we're always trying to humanize things

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but that's just because that we

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understandably need to put things in

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terms that we can relate to but when you

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start actually looking at the animal

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kingdom in detail it's so weird I mean I

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wrote a book called pet ghosts animal

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encounters from beyond the grave and and

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frankly I don't even like that title

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that was not my original title the

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publisher gave it that title because you

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know they hear pet and they think that

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well I can apply this more to my dog or

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my cat but the reason I didn't care for

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the title was because it was much more

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than just pets I talked about people

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having encounters with ghosts of

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dinosaurs ghosts

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so insects point being when I was

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writing that book I dug deeply into the

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animal kingdom in general all of these

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just bizarro manifestations of life and

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you start looking at things like amoebas

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and you say you know this is as a

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creature that it doesn't have a brain

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per se it doesn't have eyeballs and yet

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it seems to exhibit some kind of

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intelligence I mean it it prefers

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certain kinds of water it's able to sort

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of hunt for and capture food you look at

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this thin sack but that's just full of

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water and you ask yourself where is the

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life in this thing you know what what is

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animating this blob and making this

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thing somehow transform from an

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inanimate object into some kind of a

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consciousness here I mean it's it's so

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weird I imagine that when we are talking

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about things in outer space

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you've got to realize if we can't

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comprehend some of the stuff that we're

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seeing here on earth and understand how

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it's filled with life we don't have a

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very good chance at all of understanding

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these things beyond well I was also

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suggesting here and I might get back to

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whether we'd recognize the space people

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for who and what they were whether we'd

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even recognize their technology because

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our vision of Technology and science

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fiction Star Trek Star Wars is always an

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extension of what we have now Oh a

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couple hundred years from now it's gonna

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be like this or it's gonna be like that

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and maybe we're right to some degree but

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what about a thousand years from now ten

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thousand years from now yeah well you

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know that's that's another example of

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what we're talking about in fact that's

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one of the big sort of scientific

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conundrums out there I mean there are a

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lot of issues regarding why we haven't

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found the aliens so to speak it's a

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paradox within you know the research

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community if if we have all of these

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planets and stars and galaxies then

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statistically speaking there ought to be

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some other intelligent life out there

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and you

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the mainstream scientists are telling us

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that well we haven't discovered it but

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if you consider time and you think of

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how vast the time is in terms of these

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numbers you hear you know the universe

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like what the Big Bang was something

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like 13.8 billion years ago well we

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can't even imagine what that is and so

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is it possible that it's just so

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unlikely for these civilizations to

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co-exist at the same time that maybe

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somewhere out there and there has been a

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civilization that's just as advanced or

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more advanced than than we are but the

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problem is that it's possible once a

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civilization reaches a certain point of

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development that civilization is

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destined to self-destruct and we don't

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know if that's the case we're certainly

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finding out pretty quickly that that is

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a good possibility you know when you

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when you come up with the toys that are

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capable of destroying your planet

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eventually somebody's gonna gonna hit

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the button so it may be that yeah the

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odds of our civilization happening to to

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develop an advance at the same time and

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rate as another so that the two can you

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know connect maybe that is just

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statistically very unlikely as well so

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on one hand you you deal with that if

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you're looking at this from a critical

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perspective and then on the other hand

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you have the exact opposite which is

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this perspective that maybe they're

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everywhere the aliens are all around us

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every day and we just don't even

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recognize them or or we don't we don't

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see them for one reason or another and

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yet then you have people who say well by

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god I was abducted last night you know

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one of these things took me out of my

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bed so let's stop right there in door

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break we're surrounded by these

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of this book is from the future

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and you are listening to the podcast the

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sir we're surrounding ourselves with all

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sorts of strange things so the point

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that Joshua Warren was saying there is

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that perhaps we are already surrounded

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by 80 but we don't recognize them but as

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you are talking something occurred to me

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Joshua and that is we have a planet here

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billions of years old civilizations may

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have a finite life you know maybe we

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destroy ourselves and we're gone and

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then billion years later maybe another

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civilization arises and they

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self-destruct or they evolve into some

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other plane of existence whatever it is

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why even think we are the first

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so-called advanced civilization here on

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earth I think it all goes back to that

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understandable egocentric point of view

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I mean you have people out there and I

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know we've all heard this a million

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times who say if there are aliens flying

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around out there and they're flying

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saucers why don't they just land on the

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White House lawn and show themselves to

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everybody and that's their big profound

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argument for why that you know aliens

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aren't flying around here and I always

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say to those folks you know when I go on

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a hike through the woods

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I'm not rattling the bushes and trying

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to prove to every squirrel and rabbit

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that humans exist I don't care if they

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know that humans exist as a matter of

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fact I might be doing just the opposite

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trying to not intrude then and be quiet

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because maybe I want to observe them so

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again it's very arrogant for us to think

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that if there is some other form of life

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out there especially advanced enough to

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operate the way that these other beings

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may operate if you believe these stories

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that we hear then yeah why would we be

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so condescending and arrogant and and

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and and feel so self-important that we

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would think that they would actually

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want to sit down and speak with us on

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equal terms you know when it comes to

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people who have a more extreme view of

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this people who literally say we'll look

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the aliens are among

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and some of them are shape-shifting

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reptilians that are actually eating

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people and I say do you believe that's

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possible and they asked me this question

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I say you know I bet you there's not one

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single cow on planet earth that knows

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people eat cows and so if we are being

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fed upon by something whether it's a

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physical predator or it's some kind of

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an energetic predator or what some would

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call a spiritual predator these are all

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areas we can explore more why again

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should we be so arrogant to think that

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we would be aware of that so you know

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look I'm open to all this the smartest

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cosmologists and astrophysicists in the

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world are saying we're looking out there

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in the universe and 95 plus percent of

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everything we can observe his dark

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matter or dark energy which is defined

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by the very fact that we have no idea

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what it is so if you're gonna tell me

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that you don't know what 95% of all this

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is you may as well just say we don't

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know well that's always true science

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wants to say well we've got about 95% of

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everything now we've got most of it

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we've got all the basic conditions of

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the universe pretty well down pat and

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they've been saying this now for how

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many decades as long as I've been around

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when we thought that they were canals on

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Mars when we were talking about people

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living on Venus and our science fiction

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00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:21,780
stories and everything you know science

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00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:23,970
knew about all that stuff 9 planets not

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that one is really a dwarf planet now

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00:31:30,740 --> 00:31:28,230
there's an undiscovered ninth planet

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that might be larger than we have ever

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imagined something that we captured in

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our solar system is a recent story and

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what it shows us here is that we don't

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know anything well that's right

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especially when you consider that again

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00:31:46,970 --> 00:31:45,030
what we know it's sort of like you don't

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00:31:51,620 --> 00:31:46,980
know what you don't know you know it's

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00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:51,630
one of those logical conundrums and it's

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funny because look I am a firm believer

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that the scientific method is the best

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we've got

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as you know soon I'm going to be

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teaching some

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online classes and that's one of the

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things that I'm going to dig into but I

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can see very clearly all the weaknesses

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of the scientific method and that is

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because well I'll give you two reasons

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for that for one thing we have this

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great confidence and the measurements

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that we get with all of these

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00:32:26,270 --> 00:32:23,970
instruments that we create but the

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problem is every single one of these

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instruments no matter how sophisticated

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it may be is envisioned by a human

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designed by a human built by a human

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calibrated by human used by a human

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interpreted by a human you cannot remove

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the subjective human element from all of

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this instrumentation that's one issue

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second issue is there are things that

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absolutely affect our lives and affect

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reality which cannot be scientifically

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documented I cannot scientifically prove

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to you what I dreamed last night it was

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a real experience that I had but I can't

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prove to you what it was I can't

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scientifically prove that I love

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somebody I can't scientifically prove

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what I experience when I taste chocolate

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versus what you experience when you

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taste chocolate and if you if you apply

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this in a more shall we say fundamental

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in an impactful way most of what we call

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human history has been recorded in an

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unscientific way it's been recorded by

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word of mouth I mean we didn't have you

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know cameras and and video recorders and

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all this sort of stuff hundreds of years

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ago and yet we have thousands of years

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of human history most of that has been

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based upon what people have written down

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and what people have passed along

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through oral tradition that is not

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scientific and yet we accept most of it

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00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:53,250
so again the point is the scientific

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00:33:58,130 --> 00:33:55,320
method is great but let's be honest

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about the weaknesses and remember when

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we look at history we look at the

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interpretation by the victors the ones

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who survived yeah absolutely you know

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you have to also think about yeah who is

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the messenger here and what sort of

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motivation that that person or

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had to pass along a certain perspective

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or a certain point of view exactly and

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it's also true with religious texts we

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have various changes in those texts over

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00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:30,450
the years which version of the Bible do

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00:34:36,139 --> 00:34:33,330
you think is the correct one why would

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00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:36,149
those changes made what was removed that

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00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:38,700
you don't know about yeah you're

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absolutely right I think that you know

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it's it's so funny to me that there are

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people out there who say yeah look I

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don't know if I believe in ghosts and

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UFOs and all this weird stuff and then

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they turn around they go to church and

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they read the Bible and they pray to God

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and they don't realize that the most

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paranormal thing that most people are

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00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:05,720
exposed to in their lives is religion I

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00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:10,590
mean all religions seem to be based upon

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some kind of faith and the reason that

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you need faith is because there's not

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sufficient evidence that's why faith is

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necessary so what people are believing

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in is something that's of a spiritual

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nature you know for the most part

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they're bleeding in a realm where there

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are other beings that exist or or a

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place where the human spirit goes after

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death or they're believing in miracles

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or they're sitting down and they're

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praying having this telepathic

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connection with some greater

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00:35:46,609 --> 00:35:44,040
intelligence and so there's a great

787
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:46,619
irony here that we live in a society

788
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that talks about the paranormal which

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00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:52,020
literally means beyond normal and yet

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00:35:57,410 --> 00:35:55,200
it's very normal to find a church on you

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know every other street in this country

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especially and then that's because that

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00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:02,760
we we're surrounded by paranormal

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thinking all the time but when people

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are used to it ironically it's it's not

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as paranormal as they actually believe

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00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:13,310
it is well I think it's the thought that

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paranormal means something that is

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perceived to be unreal whereas if you

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have

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as they say the church for the synagogue

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or the mosque on every other block and

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they preach a certain variation of

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religion we accept that as a normal

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00:36:37,150 --> 00:36:35,420
thing this is normal this is not

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paranormal even though it's something

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that you can't really necessarily see or

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touch although you might feel something

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we've got more to come with Joshua

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Warren and it turns out we're kind of

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exploring the frontiers of reality with

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thank you for listening to GCN

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gonna ask Joshua how he got snookered

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into giving an online course I won't let

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him do that oh by the way why'd I

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mention something that's interesting to

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my son Grayson is a teacher in Madrid

916
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Spain he teaches students how to speak

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English spanish-speaking students how to

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speak English and for his eighth grade

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class as far as the course materials are

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concerned he used an episode of the

921
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power cast all right I'm serious this is

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an episode of year two back one pardon

923
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which episode I gave him a couple of

924
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choices for him to listen to and he

925
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picked something involving UFO

926
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abductions because it involves a contact

927
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with the suppose extraterrestrial being

928
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and I said well to get the most sensible

929
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look consider Kathleen Mardon and of

930
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:17,970
course we all know her as Betty Hills

931
00:42:24,350 --> 00:42:20,850
niece and of course she heads up

932
00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:24,360
abduction investigators for a MUFON so

933
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:26,940
that's why the episodes I suggested to

934
00:42:33,250 --> 00:42:31,410
him but he sent me a photo of I guess it

935
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:33,260
looks like a blackboard of some kind

936
00:42:39,620 --> 00:42:36,570
where they mentioned my name I guess

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00:42:42,530 --> 00:42:39,630
your name and the power cast so we're

938
00:42:48,340 --> 00:42:42,540
famous in Spain and one of his students

939
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:48,350
is some kind of royal figure in Spain so

940
00:42:54,290 --> 00:42:50,850
we're being heard in high circles I

941
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:54,300
suppose so that's as close as I come to

942
00:42:59,960 --> 00:42:56,490
a course of this nature who get to yours

943
00:43:02,120 --> 00:42:59,970
Joshua in a moment before we went to

944
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:02,130
break we were talking about you know the

945
00:43:07,940 --> 00:43:05,460
power of belief and the kind of the

946
00:43:10,370 --> 00:43:07,950
disconnect that exists within the

947
00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:10,380
culture you'll have scientists who are

948
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:14,430
hard-boiled objective realists who leave

949
00:43:17,930 --> 00:43:16,200
all that at the door when they go to

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00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:17,940
church every Sunday was the example of

951
00:43:23,570 --> 00:43:21,210
Joshua gate of people buying into the

952
00:43:26,060 --> 00:43:23,580
paranormal and then denying

953
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:26,070
the reality of the paranormal and that's

954
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:27,950
why I prefer the Church of the SubGenius

955
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:31,020
you know all hail Bob there are no

956
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:33,930
beliefs in that particular Church all

957
00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:37,680
you do is look for eternal slack which i

958
00:43:43,580 --> 00:43:40,830
think is severely been was severely

959
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:43,590
in is is missing in our modern

960
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:46,890
day culture I think we need more slack

961
00:44:00,680 --> 00:43:56,660
well I didn't want to digress that much

962
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but so slack is you know whatever

963
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whatever floats your boat will access

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you and it allows you the leeway to do

965
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what needs to be done you know manner

966
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and in a timetable that I guess is best

967
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suited for your for your convenience

968
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why suppose religion could be a slack

969
00:44:24,830 --> 00:44:20,100
it's a way for everyone to get together

970
00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:24,840
a community feeling you share something

971
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you could relax and listen and after

972
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:30,000
it's done maybe people get together and

973
00:44:34,970 --> 00:44:32,550
have coffee and a Danish or something

974
00:44:38,570 --> 00:44:34,980
and associated with other people so is

975
00:44:41,230 --> 00:44:38,580
that slack no I think slack is more more

976
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:41,240
esoteric than that I think it has more

977
00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:45,090
it's it's a higher vibrational thing

978
00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:49,740
slack is is is a it's not quite as high

979
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brave a high vibration as bliss but it's

980
00:45:02,420 --> 00:44:59,940
definitely more than enthusiasm because

981
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:02,430
to have slack you have to you you have

982
00:45:08,740 --> 00:45:05,280
to sort of give up certain expectations

983
00:45:10,730 --> 00:45:08,750
and and be okay with it

984
00:45:14,930 --> 00:45:10,740
you know it's interesting about

985
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:14,940
religious effects and things and I go

986
00:45:20,330 --> 00:45:17,970
back to something that happened years

987
00:45:21,890 --> 00:45:20,340
and years ago and I was working at a

988
00:45:25,070 --> 00:45:21,900
radio station in a little town called

989
00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:25,080
Piedmont Alabama WP ID which I think

990
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:26,640
still exists it doesn't carry this show

991
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:28,890
we'll try to work on it's a small town

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00:45:35,060 --> 00:45:31,800
like five six thousand people and every

993
00:45:37,339 --> 00:45:35,070
Sunday we would have different local

994
00:45:39,229 --> 00:45:37,349
churches coming in to do an hour show

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00:45:42,099 --> 00:45:39,239
and the first thing of course they had

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00:45:44,779 --> 00:45:42,109
to pay the station we didn't even trust

997
00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:44,789
the preacher they had give us the money

998
00:45:49,729 --> 00:45:47,640
in cash first before they do their

999
00:45:52,609 --> 00:45:49,739
session and there was an organization

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00:45:54,979 --> 00:45:52,619
called Chapman's Chapel I remember that

1001
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:54,989
and my first wife Geneva was sitting

1002
00:45:59,259 --> 00:45:57,359
next to me in the studio and the next

1003
00:46:02,420 --> 00:45:59,269
room we have this group of people

1004
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,430
beginning their sermon and they start

1005
00:46:06,799 --> 00:46:04,319
very softly so I turn up the levels and

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00:46:09,019 --> 00:46:06,809
they get louder and louder so you turn

1007
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:09,029
down the levels not to over modulate and

1008
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distort and soon they're speaking in

1009
00:46:23,809 --> 00:46:20,900
makes for great radio well just remember

1010
00:46:25,999 --> 00:46:23,819
here we're talking about a nice Jewish

1011
00:46:29,779 --> 00:46:26,009
guy from brooklyn new york new to the

1012
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:29,789
south my wife being a woman who grew up

1013
00:46:35,269 --> 00:46:33,119
in the Methodist family in Alabama and

1014
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:35,279
we're sitting there and they're talking

1015
00:46:40,729 --> 00:46:37,920
of the sinners and they're looking right

1016
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:40,739
at us first thing that's enough to be

1017
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,569
paranoid about and then they start

1018
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:45,119
speaking in tongues and you know I heard

1019
00:46:49,989 --> 00:46:47,910
of this of course I didn't know what to

1020
00:46:52,130 --> 00:46:49,999
think or what to do when I heard it

1021
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:52,140
because to me was like gibberish for

1022
00:46:55,609 --> 00:46:54,029
maybe an alien speaking or something

1023
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:55,619
like that and it went on for a few

1024
00:47:01,099 --> 00:46:58,049
moments and they finished and they left

1025
00:47:02,390 --> 00:47:01,109
and they never came back following you

1026
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:02,400
there's a term for that it's called

1027
00:47:09,529 --> 00:47:06,960
glossolalia okay you learn something

1028
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:09,539
every day Jean I know that and this was

1029
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:11,369
you know something that is probably

1030
00:47:15,859 --> 00:47:13,650
fairly common you know a lot of the

1031
00:47:17,989 --> 00:47:15,869
churches but I didn't expect to hear it

1032
00:47:20,420 --> 00:47:17,999
go out over the air and I wonder what

1033
00:47:22,789 --> 00:47:20,430
the FCC would think that's more of a

1034
00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:22,799
Pentecostal thing I think yes it is yes

1035
00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:26,339
it is I don't think it's very young did

1036
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:27,960
they did they bring in basket basket

1037
00:47:31,759 --> 00:47:29,729
loads of snakes as well and start

1038
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:31,769
handling snakes while they were there

1039
00:47:35,779 --> 00:47:32,910
eyes were rolled in their head and they

1040
00:47:38,900 --> 00:47:35,789
were slobbering with their glossolalia

1041
00:47:41,180 --> 00:47:38,910
sessions no snake handling no snake

1042
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:41,190
handling no snakes no strange creatures

1043
00:47:45,739 --> 00:47:43,410
no nothing was just a small number of

1044
00:47:49,819 --> 00:47:45,749
people with their Bibles that was it

1045
00:47:53,299 --> 00:47:51,349
but now that I mentioned it somebody's

1046
00:47:54,890 --> 00:47:53,309
gonna look up Chapman's Chapel and see

1047
00:48:01,099 --> 00:47:54,900
if there is still such a place in

1048
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:01,109
Piedmont Alabama hmm what the key here

1049
00:48:07,609 --> 00:48:04,319
is that certainly I thought an extreme

1050
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:07,619
measure but you know that takes us back

1051
00:48:11,959 --> 00:48:09,690
to our whole vision of what our reality

1052
00:48:14,839 --> 00:48:11,969
is and what our interactions were and

1053
00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:14,849
it's part of organized religion that at

1054
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:17,579
some point in the past a lot of

1055
00:48:26,329 --> 00:48:19,910
organized religion that we interacted

1056
00:48:32,469 --> 00:48:26,339
with God or God's associates henchmen

1057
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:35,269
of course that forms the basis of things

1058
00:48:40,339 --> 00:48:38,099
like the ancient astronaut theory that

1059
00:48:44,630 --> 00:48:40,349
these creatures that we interacted with

1060
00:48:50,019 --> 00:48:44,640
hey guess what they were really space

1061
00:48:54,729 --> 00:48:50,029
people what you think about that Joshua

1062
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:54,739
well you know I I actually do think that

1063
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,170
you know if we were visited by beings

1064
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:01,680
from other planets in the past they

1065
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:04,319
obviously would have been interpreted as

1066
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:09,599
gods and you know you just can't deny

1067
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,089
when you go back and you look at some of

1068
00:49:17,809 --> 00:49:13,920
these carvings and you look at some of

1069
00:49:21,469 --> 00:49:17,819
these ancient texts and you read some of

1070
00:49:23,839 --> 00:49:21,479
the descriptions and like for example

1071
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:23,849
the the ancient Hindu texts not to

1072
00:49:29,989 --> 00:49:25,890
mention the more familiar stuff like we

1073
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:29,999
have in the Bible it really does sound

1074
00:49:35,509 --> 00:49:33,569
like an ancient person's description of

1075
00:49:40,430 --> 00:49:35,519
the things that we nowadays would

1076
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:40,440
attribute to UFOs and alien so you know

1077
00:49:46,569 --> 00:49:43,650
to me whatever this phenomenon is it is

1078
00:49:50,209 --> 00:49:46,579
something that has always been around

1079
00:49:54,819 --> 00:49:50,219
frankly my gut tells me whatever that's

1080
00:49:59,589 --> 00:49:54,829
worth that that we actually were visited

1081
00:50:01,630 --> 00:49:59,599
as a planet by some other physical

1082
00:50:05,059 --> 00:50:01,640
beings

1083
00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:05,069
somewhere in the neighborhood of you

1084
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:08,099
know two to four thousand years ago you

1085
00:50:12,499 --> 00:50:10,170
know something like I know that's a wide

1086
00:50:15,279 --> 00:50:12,509
range but still you know there's this

1087
00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:15,289
period of time where all of these

1088
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:17,819
religions sort of started popping up

1089
00:50:23,140 --> 00:50:19,920
around the planet and they all said

1090
00:50:27,739 --> 00:50:23,150
essentially the same thing they all said

1091
00:50:31,819 --> 00:50:27,749
there's a group of beings that came from

1092
00:50:36,410 --> 00:50:31,829
the sky and they came down and gave us

1093
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:36,420
some information and then they all left

1094
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:39,660
but not before saying we're going to be

1095
00:50:44,989 --> 00:50:43,710
coming back in the future and that's one

1096
00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:44,999
thing all these quote-unquote

1097
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:47,160
you know ancient religions tend to have

1098
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:49,650
in common maybe not all of them but most

1099
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:51,930
of them I can I can say especially those

1100
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:54,630
that stemmed from the Middle East and

1101
00:50:59,410 --> 00:50:55,609
Africa

1102
00:51:02,299 --> 00:50:59,420
certainly in Central and South America

1103
00:51:05,959 --> 00:51:02,309
but you know you can find examples of

1104
00:51:09,289 --> 00:51:05,969
this around the world and so you know it

1105
00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:09,299
makes sense to me that at that time

1106
00:51:14,959 --> 00:51:11,700
there was some kind of an interaction

1107
00:51:17,870 --> 00:51:14,969
now we might think well gosh it's been

1108
00:51:20,450 --> 00:51:17,880
thousands of years apparently they're

1109
00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:20,460
not coming back and mass like they like

1110
00:51:23,569 --> 00:51:22,920
they were before so maybe they're never

1111
00:51:27,019 --> 00:51:23,579
coming back

1112
00:51:28,940 --> 00:51:27,029
or maybe they fulfill their purpose or

1113
00:51:32,359 --> 00:51:28,950
maybe they decided they just don't like

1114
00:51:36,349 --> 00:51:32,369
us after all the interference they just

1115
00:51:38,660 --> 00:51:36,359
didn't like us so much let's pick up on

1116
00:51:49,070 --> 00:51:38,670
the other side with Joshua Warren and

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

1169
00:54:24,030 --> 00:54:22,000
here's Jane Steinberg with Jean and

1170
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:24,040
Kristen the para cast Joshua Warren

1171
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:25,960
we're gonna talk beginning in this

1172
00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:27,609
segment about the course she's gonna

1173
00:54:32,430 --> 00:54:29,400
deliver but we're talking now about

1174
00:54:35,340 --> 00:54:32,440
nature of reality possible ancient

1175
00:54:37,609 --> 00:54:35,350
astronauts now the thing that's

1176
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,619
interesting to me is when you have

1177
00:54:44,310 --> 00:54:40,240
fundamental similarities between

1178
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:44,320
different religions they met one or more

1179
00:54:51,260 --> 00:54:48,130
beings several thousand years ago and

1180
00:54:54,630 --> 00:54:51,270
they all seem to point to the same thing

1181
00:54:57,620 --> 00:54:54,640
like this legend carried on around the

1182
00:55:00,540 --> 00:54:57,630
world like it's almost a singular event

1183
00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:00,550
what's your take well yeah you know you

1184
00:55:06,210 --> 00:55:03,790
can look again at any one of the ancient

1185
00:55:09,810 --> 00:55:06,220
civilizations and I guarantee you I mean

1186
00:55:11,790 --> 00:55:09,820
they have stories that are essentially

1187
00:55:13,700 --> 00:55:11,800
along these same guidelines that there

1188
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:13,710
were beings that came down here and

1189
00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:16,330
passed a message along and passed some

1190
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:19,960
information along and you know we were

1191
00:55:26,580 --> 00:55:22,830
talking earlier in the program about the

1192
00:55:30,570 --> 00:55:26,590
complexity of understanding and grasping

1193
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:30,580
time and of course we know that time is

1194
00:55:37,590 --> 00:55:34,170
a flexible thing this has been of course

1195
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:37,600
scientifically proven by studying Albert

1196
00:55:44,849 --> 00:55:41,440
Einstein's work we know that a a clock

1197
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:44,859
in your basement actually does run

1198
00:55:50,010 --> 00:55:47,770
slower than a clock in your attic and

1199
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:50,020
that is because the one in your basement

1200
00:55:55,260 --> 00:55:52,530
is a little bit closer to the Earth's

1201
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:55,270
gravitational field and gravity slows

1202
00:56:02,280 --> 00:55:58,720
time now it's by such a miniscule amount

1203
00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:02,290
that it's inconsequential to the way we

1204
00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:04,630
live our daily lives but that doesn't

1205
00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:06,070
mean it can't be measured and it's not a

1206
00:56:12,090 --> 00:56:09,550
real thing and so when we know that time

1207
00:56:14,609 --> 00:56:12,100
is flexible then here on earth of course

1208
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:14,619
we can say well you know we haven't seen

1209
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:16,960
all these beings flying around and two

1210
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:18,490
or three thousand years or whatever

1211
00:56:24,930 --> 00:56:22,450
but maybe it's only been a week to those

1212
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:24,940
beings because they're travelling around

1213
00:56:31,020 --> 00:56:28,000
the universe at a different speed so I

1214
00:56:33,930 --> 00:56:31,030
always find it interesting when when we

1215
00:56:39,660 --> 00:56:33,940
look at how our own scientists on earth

1216
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:39,670
are trying to say find a specific type

1217
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:44,200
of strain let's say they have a petri

1218
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:46,960
dish in there they're trying to breed a

1219
00:56:52,140 --> 00:56:49,380
certain or cultivate a certain type of

1220
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:52,150
microorganism they go through

1221
00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:54,310
generations and and some of these things

1222
00:56:59,220 --> 00:56:56,710
rule will go through several generations

1223
00:57:00,960 --> 00:56:59,230
in a couple days and it's no different

1224
00:57:02,670 --> 00:57:00,970
than breeding dogs and how that you can

1225
00:57:04,710 --> 00:57:02,680
look at how you know over the years

1226
00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:04,720
certain dogs have been picked because

1227
00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:07,030
they exhibit certain traits that are you

1228
00:57:13,020 --> 00:57:09,820
know appealing for a particular purpose

1229
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,030
well it may be that this process that

1230
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:15,760
began a few thousand years ago with

1231
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:17,710
these beings coming here and putting

1232
00:57:24,030 --> 00:57:21,130
some things in place has been continuing

1233
00:57:26,670 --> 00:57:24,040
all along and that humans collectively

1234
00:57:29,609 --> 00:57:26,680
have have been sort of bred the same way

1235
00:57:33,780 --> 00:57:29,619
and it's taken multiple generations for

1236
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:33,790
us to reach a state which is appealing

1237
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:36,130
to them for whatever their purpose may

1238
00:57:44,310 --> 00:57:41,530
be for us why all so that if they had a

1239
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:44,320
purpose for us in the first place maybe

1240
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:47,170
they genetically manipulated us or

1241
00:57:53,250 --> 00:57:49,450
created us from the local populace and

1242
00:57:55,650 --> 00:57:53,260
they're looking at their work and

1243
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:55,660
fine-tuning things to get what they want

1244
00:58:03,050 --> 00:57:59,290
or need oh absolutely you know to me you

1245
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:03,060
can talk to biologists who will say hey

1246
00:58:09,930 --> 00:58:06,960
genetically speaking when we study DNA

1247
00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:09,940
there's no need to involve aliens in

1248
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:12,430
this you know we this has just been a

1249
00:58:17,070 --> 00:58:15,190
natural progression but regardless of

1250
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:17,080
what they're telling me and and of

1251
00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:18,730
course we know that the scientific

1252
00:58:24,150 --> 00:58:21,540
understanding is constantly changing I

1253
00:58:27,210 --> 00:58:24,160
look at the world around me

1254
00:58:29,970 --> 00:58:27,220
and I don't see anything else that comes

1255
00:58:31,820 --> 00:58:29,980
close to humans I mean even if you look

1256
00:58:35,060 --> 00:58:31,830
at gorillas in chimp

1257
00:58:37,010 --> 00:58:35,070
zees yes I mean they resemble us in many

1258
00:58:39,110 --> 00:58:37,020
ways and there's a very human-like

1259
00:58:41,690 --> 00:58:39,120
quality about them when you see them in

1260
00:58:44,690 --> 00:58:41,700
person but they are not building

1261
00:58:46,460 --> 00:58:44,700
skyscrapers they're not flying airplanes

1262
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:46,470
they're not going to the bottom of the

1263
00:58:53,150 --> 00:58:48,290
sea and submarines they're nowhere near

1264
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:53,160
flying to the moon I mean we are so

1265
00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:56,610
different than every other creature on

1266
00:59:00,560 --> 00:58:58,770
this planet and there are tons of

1267
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:00,570
creatures on this planet and and and

1268
00:59:06,140 --> 00:59:03,690
what exists right now they say is a very

1269
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:06,150
very tiny percentage of all the

1270
00:59:11,990 --> 00:59:08,850
creatures that have ever existed we look

1271
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:12,000
at all this amazing this just incredible

1272
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:14,490
myriad the spectrum of life here and we

1273
00:59:19,730 --> 00:59:17,130
look at humans and we say wow something

1274
00:59:22,970 --> 00:59:19,740
happened here to take us to another

1275
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:22,980
level and regardless of what our current

1276
00:59:27,890 --> 00:59:25,290
scientific understanding is there's

1277
00:59:30,820 --> 00:59:27,900
supposed to be right now I mean common

1278
00:59:33,830 --> 00:59:30,830
sense shows me that at some point our

1279
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:33,840
genetics were manipulated or changed or

1280
00:59:39,830 --> 00:59:36,690
influenced in some way to to make humans

1281
00:59:40,340 --> 00:59:39,840
outstanding well if we are in God's

1282
00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:40,350
image

1283
00:59:44,750 --> 00:59:43,020
maybe that's deliberate yeah I think

1284
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:44,760
that's exactly what that phrase is

1285
00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:47,250
supposed to mean you know and and of

1286
00:59:53,330 --> 00:59:50,160
course not that we can rely upon all

1287
00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:53,340
these correct interpretations of ancient

1288
00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:55,500
text but you know if you look at the

1289
01:00:01,250 --> 00:59:59,010
Bible and and you study some of the sort

1290
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:01,260
of oldest versions that we have of the

1291
01:00:08,570 --> 01:00:06,210
Old Testament that phrase is a plural

1292
01:00:11,180 --> 01:00:08,580
phrase you know I believe the L is the

1293
01:00:13,820 --> 01:00:11,190
phrase for God and Elohim is the phrase

1294
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:13,830
that was used so man was created or let

1295
01:00:20,030 --> 01:00:17,610
us create man in our image so this adds

1296
01:00:22,820 --> 01:00:20,040
another angle to it if we're gonna start

1297
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:22,830
looking at what these messages were that

1298
01:00:27,170 --> 01:00:24,660
ancient people were trying to pass along

1299
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:27,180
to us at the point being it seems as if

1300
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:30,210
maybe there wasn't you know one dude

1301
01:00:34,490 --> 01:00:32,790
sitting up in the sky who sat down and

1302
01:00:36,380 --> 01:00:34,500
pointed his finger and lightning bolt

1303
01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:36,390
shot out and here we know humans were

1304
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:39,080
created instead that there was a

1305
01:00:44,839 --> 01:00:41,970
collection of individuals from another

1306
01:00:47,749 --> 01:00:44,849
civilization they came here

1307
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:47,759
and did things that at this time we

1308
01:00:52,009 --> 01:00:50,130
would consider scientific we would look

1309
01:00:53,989 --> 01:00:52,019
at them as experiments or we would look

1310
01:00:56,479 --> 01:00:53,999
at them you know in a lot of different

1311
01:00:59,150 --> 01:00:56,489
technological ways but back in those

1312
01:01:02,059 --> 01:00:59,160
days before people were even aware of

1313
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:02,069
this idea of the scientific method it

1314
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:04,170
would have just been interpreted as some

1315
01:01:08,809 --> 01:01:06,450
kind of a more organic creative process

1316
01:01:11,809 --> 01:01:08,819
that goes back to whether we would

1317
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:11,819
recognize technology that's a thousand

1318
01:01:16,099 --> 01:01:13,650
years ahead of us five thousand or ten

1319
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:16,109
thousand years could we even recognize

1320
01:01:21,170 --> 01:01:18,930
what they did it would seem to us like

1321
01:01:23,569 --> 01:01:21,180
magic yeah well you know there's that

1322
01:01:26,650 --> 01:01:23,579
great quote I don't I think it might

1323
01:01:28,789 --> 01:01:26,660
have been arthur c clarke who said any

1324
01:01:31,479 --> 01:01:28,799
sufficiently advanced technology is

1325
01:01:35,390 --> 01:01:31,489
indistinguishable from magic

1326
01:01:39,349 --> 01:01:35,400
and that shows of course when we seek

1327
01:01:42,890 --> 01:01:39,359
you on Star Trek next generation - snaps

1328
01:01:45,739 --> 01:01:42,900
his fingers and reality changes yeah

1329
01:01:47,630 --> 01:01:45,749
well you know right now I you know I I

1330
01:01:50,660 --> 01:01:47,640
went out as soon as this virtual reality

1331
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:50,670
stuff became big and I bought one of the

1332
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:53,160
best virtual reality setups that you can

1333
01:02:00,019 --> 01:01:56,670
get on the market right now and just

1334
01:02:01,339 --> 01:02:00,029
recently four o'clock in the morning and

1335
01:02:03,709 --> 01:02:01,349
you know you know me I'm on a weird

1336
01:02:06,499 --> 01:02:03,719
schedule I'm you know I'm up at in the

1337
01:02:10,459 --> 01:02:06,509
middle of the night half the time and I

1338
01:02:14,059 --> 01:02:10,469
was sitting on my couch this is here in

1339
01:02:19,219 --> 01:02:14,069
Puerto Rico I had the virtual reality

1340
01:02:22,690 --> 01:02:19,229
headset on and I had a program that

1341
01:02:26,709 --> 01:02:22,700
where essentially I was floating down a

1342
01:02:30,589 --> 01:02:26,719
relaxing River and there is this nice

1343
01:02:32,329 --> 01:02:30,599
relaxing music playing and I can't

1344
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:32,339
remember the name of the program but

1345
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:34,410
anyway obviously everything's in 3d

1346
01:02:38,539 --> 01:02:37,049
everything is surrounding me this is my

1347
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:38,549
reality at that moment I mean I'm

1348
01:02:41,660 --> 01:02:40,170
floating down this river I can look up

1349
01:02:43,609 --> 01:02:41,670
and see the birds I can look down and

1350
01:02:46,339 --> 01:02:43,619
see the water I can look behind me I

1351
01:02:49,279 --> 01:02:46,349
mean anywhere I look there's something

1352
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there and so I'm in the middle of this

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very relaxing experience as I'm floating

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down this river and then I decided to

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change my position

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and I hit my shin on the coffee table in

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front of me it's like oh man I bumped

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into another reality here and and it and

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that became very symbolic for me because

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if you are only living within these

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dimensions these three dimensions or

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four dimensions that we are living in on

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a day-to-day basis it's very easy for

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you to just think this is all there is

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sounds like an old song we've got a lot

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more to come with Joshua P Warren and

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we'll ask in our next segment about this

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online course she's going to teach in

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February can we persuade him to do it

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again or is this a one-off our guess is

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Joshua p1 with gene and Chris you're in

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attack of the rock aids has been

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you'll never forget a former US military

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intelligence officer is haunted by

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intense dreams about a beautiful woman

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pleading for his help after a terrible

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battle in outer space but the dreams

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turn out to be true and thrust him into

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a telepathic love affair with a woman

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whose faraway planet is intent on

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destroying the earth and now the

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Cris in the para cast Joshua P Warren

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joins us let me tell you first before we

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get to our next question and topic with

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him about his online course we have a

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second radio show called act for the

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para cast and it can be the unexpected

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the unexplained uncensored last week we

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featured dr. Lin kita to talk about of

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course the Phoenix lights which is her

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01:08:48,570 --> 01:08:46,390
favorite subject breathlessly talking

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about that subject and then of course we

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offer the commercial free version of

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this show and many other benefits for a

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low weekly monthly annual five year or

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lifetime rate to learn more how to sign

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up go check out plus dot the para cast

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so I have never been asked to be an

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instructor about anything I've given

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01:09:13,499 --> 01:09:11,740
individual instructions on using

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personal computers and such I've written

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01:09:20,599 --> 01:09:16,120
books on it but you've been sucked into

1496
01:09:24,180 --> 01:09:20,609
this online course Joshua tell us more

1497
01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:24,190
yeah well you know I have a museum in

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01:09:27,900 --> 01:09:26,470
Asheville called the Asheville mystery

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01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:27,910
Museum this is Asheville North Carolina

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and a laboratory and I'm proud to say

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01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:34,120
that my team and I made the cover of a

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science journal in 2004 for some work

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01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:41,140
that we did that was inspired by

1504
01:09:45,030 --> 01:09:43,450
studying paranormal activity in the

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01:09:47,340 --> 01:09:45,040
field specifically the Brown Mountain

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01:09:49,740 --> 01:09:47,350
lights and of course that's pretty

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01:09:52,230 --> 01:09:49,750
unusual for people who are in the the

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01:09:53,810 --> 01:09:52,240
quote-unquote paranormal to to you know

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01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:53,820
actually make some headway that is

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01:09:58,860 --> 01:09:55,570
appreciated within the scientific

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01:10:01,290 --> 01:09:58,870
community and so over the years I

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01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:01,300
occasionally have taught classes in

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01:10:07,430 --> 01:10:04,570
Asheville to people who are interested

1514
01:10:10,170 --> 01:10:07,440
in my particular approach to paranormal

1515
01:10:12,660 --> 01:10:10,180
investigation and I have been fortunate

1516
01:10:15,450 --> 01:10:12,670
to have students who have traveled from

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01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:15,460
around the world and frankly they paid a

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01:10:20,210 --> 01:10:17,950
lot of money to sit there for days or

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01:10:23,540 --> 01:10:20,220
weeks depending on those

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01:10:26,420 --> 01:10:23,550
yet I've been contacted the whole time

1521
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:26,430
by people who say look I want to take

1522
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:28,410
these classes I want to do everything

1523
01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:30,570
possible but I just don't have the means

1524
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:34,320
to make it to Asheville is there any way

1525
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:37,170
you can offer this online I have always

1526
01:10:43,190 --> 01:10:40,710
said no no no I I think you need to be

1527
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:43,200
there in person but times have changed

1528
01:10:49,930 --> 01:10:47,040
the technology has improved and so I

1529
01:10:54,860 --> 01:10:49,940
finally decided that I'm going to offer

1530
01:10:57,020 --> 01:10:54,870
my classes on line one time only and

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01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,030
this is not some kind of an exaggeration

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01:11:02,690 --> 01:10:59,460
I'm gonna do this once it'll never

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01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:02,700
happen again these are live interactive

1534
01:11:06,860 --> 01:11:05,280
classes let's say you sign up but you

1535
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:06,870
can't make one of the classes well

1536
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,210
that's okay because I will record it and

1537
01:11:13,670 --> 01:11:11,280
send you a recording of it later if you

1538
01:11:16,130 --> 01:11:13,680
can't make one but the live interactive

1539
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:16,140
part is important to me we're gonna

1540
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:18,770
start doing this a February the 6th

1541
01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:22,050
details are at Joshua P Warren dot-com

1542
01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:24,750
that's my personal website the first

1543
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:27,840
class is called reality and how to

1544
01:11:32,990 --> 01:11:30,570
measure it and that actually is going to

1545
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:33,000
dig into a lot of the issues that are

1546
01:11:37,910 --> 01:11:35,330
similar to our conversation thus far

1547
01:11:39,380 --> 01:11:37,920
number 2 is going to be ghosts and

1548
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:39,390
hauntings and we're going to talk about

1549
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:42,510
all kinds of spiritual phenomena not

1550
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:45,690
just ghosts but also there's these ideas

1551
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:47,970
about angels and demons and all these

1552
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:52,350
sort of figures that are maybe inhuman I

1553
01:11:55,700 --> 01:11:53,940
mean we're gonna really delve into all

1554
01:11:58,910 --> 01:11:55,710
that and the different types of ghosts

1555
01:12:01,340 --> 01:11:58,920
the entities versus the imprints and all

1556
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:01,350
those you know sort of issues about the

1557
01:12:07,100 --> 01:12:03,690
spiritual realm class three is going to

1558
01:12:09,980 --> 01:12:07,110
be UFOs and cryptids so yeah we're gonna

1559
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:09,990
talk about the typical stuff that we all

1560
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:11,970
know about the sorceress and Bigfoot and

1561
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:13,890
lotta not sure but we're gonna go beyond

1562
01:12:17,480 --> 01:12:15,510
that because that has not been good

1563
01:12:19,730 --> 01:12:17,490
enough so far to give us answers and

1564
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:19,740
explanations I have a lot of thoughts

1565
01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:21,810
about this being an interdimensional

1566
01:12:28,190 --> 01:12:23,550
phenomenon and I'm going to demonstrate

1567
01:12:29,860 --> 01:12:28,200
that in the class number four is ESP and

1568
01:12:31,270 --> 01:12:29,870
magic and

1569
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,280
really looking forward to that one

1570
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:33,920
because it deals a lot with how that

1571
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:37,520
thoughts and intentions can actually

1572
01:12:42,340 --> 01:12:40,250
transition into this thing we call

1573
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:42,350
physical reality and the different

1574
01:12:48,340 --> 01:12:45,350
methods that that can take and magical

1575
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:48,350
thinking as well as again psychic

1576
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:50,510
phenomena and there are some interesting

1577
01:12:54,970 --> 01:12:52,370
exercises that I'm going to teach people

1578
01:12:57,250 --> 01:12:54,980
about and then class number five is

1579
01:13:00,250 --> 01:12:57,260
actually a very practical one and it's

1580
01:13:03,130 --> 01:13:00,260
called earning money as an investigator

1581
01:13:05,530 --> 01:13:03,140
because most people who do this kind of

1582
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:05,540
stuff they do it as a hobby or as a mere

1583
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:07,850
interest but I've been fortunate to be

1584
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:10,690
self-employed for over 20 years now

1585
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:13,760
doing what I love to do and that is to

1586
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:15,440
go out and investigate all of these

1587
01:13:20,830 --> 01:13:18,170
great mysteries and I have some very

1588
01:13:22,750 --> 01:13:20,840
practical business tips for people out

1589
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:22,760
there who might want to to do what I do

1590
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:24,770
to actually do this professionally and

1591
01:13:29,380 --> 01:13:27,050
so uh as you know I've been on a lot of

1592
01:13:31,180 --> 01:13:29,390
TV programs I published a lot of books

1593
01:13:32,650 --> 01:13:31,190
and I'm fortunate to have a lot of

1594
01:13:34,780 --> 01:13:32,660
connections and I'm gonna make those

1595
01:13:37,450 --> 01:13:34,790
connections available to all of my

1596
01:13:39,310 --> 01:13:37,460
students who graduate from this so again

1597
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:39,320
all that's at Joshua P Warren comm and

1598
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:41,690
it starts here gosh and well it's just

1599
01:13:46,990 --> 01:13:44,810
it's just days away so if people want to

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sign up right now then I'll be happy to

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extend your list there's a discount

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01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:51,380
okay now the discount technically is

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expired already but we don't want you to

1604
01:14:00,970 --> 01:13:57,110
do that now this show will be heard on

1605
01:14:04,450 --> 01:14:00,980
the last Sunday in January okay and then

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01:14:06,370 --> 01:14:04,460
thereafter now normally the price the

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01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:06,380
discount would have expired already the

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01:14:12,370 --> 01:14:09,650
first class is February 6th but if you

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mention this show how's that you

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01:14:16,060 --> 01:14:13,730
mentioned power cash you give them a

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01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:16,070
discount that sounds very fair to me and

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01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:18,770
you know I in fact I might go ahead and

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01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:21,110
just extend the discount until this show

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01:14:27,490 --> 01:14:24,530
airs because my goal here is to get as

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01:14:29,380 --> 01:14:27,500
many sincere people as possible to sign

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up for this and I want to make it as

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01:14:34,390 --> 01:14:32,120
easy as possible for people to do so so

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01:14:36,490 --> 01:14:34,400
if I don't extend the discount then you

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01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:36,500
just mentioned that you are a para cast

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:37,910
listener and I'll give it to you anyway

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01:14:42,550 --> 01:14:40,730
but one way or another if this is your

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:42,560
cup of tea if you're the right person

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01:14:46,070 --> 01:14:43,650
for this

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01:14:48,260 --> 01:14:46,080
I want you as a student and I want us to

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build a relationship now the point being

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01:14:52,310 --> 01:14:49,980
here is the one time thing you will

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01:14:55,459 --> 01:14:52,320
never do this ever again or what you

1628
01:14:56,090 --> 01:14:55,469
have my word I will never ever do this

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01:14:58,459 --> 01:14:56,100
again

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01:15:03,229 --> 01:14:58,469
the rest of my life the reason I say

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01:15:05,450 --> 01:15:03,239
that is that I am extremely busy and the

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01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:05,460
reason is I get so many great

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01:15:11,540 --> 01:15:08,310
opportunities to do things and I don't

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01:15:13,580 --> 01:15:11,550
sit still for very long and sitting in

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01:15:15,590 --> 01:15:13,590
front of a computer and doing these

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01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:15,600
classes I'm gonna relish doing this once

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:19,050
but I'm I've already gotten probably

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01:15:23,419 --> 01:15:21,330
about five different invitations to do

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01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:23,429
events in February that I've turned down

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01:15:28,370 --> 01:15:25,980
so I can do these classes I don't

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01:15:30,169 --> 01:15:28,380
foresee ever doing that again so this is

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01:15:32,930 --> 01:15:30,179
for all the people out there who have

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01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:32,940
have asked me over the years to allow

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them to participate even though they

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can't travel to Asheville North Carolina

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and so I want everybody to take this

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very seriously if you want to do this

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then this is your only opportunity again

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where do they check this out my personal

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website is Joshua P Warren comm there is

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no period after the P if you go to

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Joshua P Warren comm there's a link

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right there at the very top of the page

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01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:01,230
in fact you'll find it on a number of

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places on that page that you can click

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01:16:07,250 --> 01:16:05,400
you can move and you can also watch a

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little video of me talking about the

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classes and basically everybody who

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takes this course again is going to have

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access we're gonna have a good dialogue

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and then at the end I'm gonna send a

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test then I will grade that test you

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01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:21,540
know if you pass the test and I will

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send you a certificate saying that you

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took this course and you passed it and

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so anybody out there who actually

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appreciates my approach to the

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paranormal will also appreciate that you

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have gone through this course we'll have

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more with Joshua P Warren on the other

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[Music]

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01:21:19,530 --> 01:21:15,270
speaking of being in different places

1788
01:21:23,690 --> 01:21:19,540
from Asheville to Puerto Rico how come

1789
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:23,700
you're in Puerto Rico right now you know

1790
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:26,290
are we still on the air is this off the

1791
01:21:30,630 --> 01:21:26,770
air

1792
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:30,640
well we're on sir okay that's good cuz

1793
01:21:36,810 --> 01:21:34,090
that means I can go on for a while this

1794
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:36,820
is a big interesting story actually you

1795
01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:39,730
know I grew up in Asheville and as I

1796
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:42,550
mentioned I was studying Brown Mountain

1797
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:45,850
and the Brown Mountain lights and when

1798
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:47,980
it came to Brown Mountain I found that

1799
01:21:52,290 --> 01:21:49,690
Brown Mountain is more than a place

1800
01:21:56,300 --> 01:21:52,300
where ghost lights simply appear it's

1801
01:21:59,400 --> 01:21:56,310
also a place where you have these well

1802
01:22:01,890 --> 01:21:59,410
I'd like to call it a phantasmagoria of

1803
01:22:06,030 --> 01:22:01,900
odd experiences people talking about

1804
01:22:08,459 --> 01:22:06,040
UFOs psychic experiences ghosts Pine

1805
01:22:11,130 --> 01:22:08,469
slips I mean all that stuff and I

1806
01:22:13,590 --> 01:22:11,140
started to realize wow brown Mountain is

1807
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:13,600
kind of like a miniature Bermuda

1808
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:16,930
Triangle so the more I studied that the

1809
01:22:19,860 --> 01:22:18,400
more I wanted to go and explore the

1810
01:22:22,979 --> 01:22:19,870
Bermuda Triangle well the Bermuda

1811
01:22:26,459 --> 01:22:22,989
Triangle is this area which roughly goes

1812
01:22:28,530 --> 01:22:26,469
from Florida to the island of Puerto

1813
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:28,540
Rico and then the island of Bermuda

1814
01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:30,850
those are the three points and again

1815
01:22:34,830 --> 01:22:32,710
it's it's it's a general way of

1816
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:34,840
describing the area so I started

1817
01:22:39,690 --> 01:22:37,690
traveling to the Bermuda Triangle years

1818
01:22:41,070 --> 01:22:39,700
ago and comparing some of the things

1819
01:22:44,450 --> 01:22:41,080
that were happening here because it's a

1820
01:22:47,940 --> 01:22:44,460
lot more than just people having these

1821
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:47,950
experiences with you know disappearances

1822
01:22:53,940 --> 01:22:50,410
I mean this goes into the whole plethora

1823
01:22:55,470 --> 01:22:53,950
of paranormal activity magnified at this

1824
01:22:57,570 --> 01:22:55,480
spot on on planet Earth

1825
01:22:59,490 --> 01:22:57,580
there's a very interesting story this is

1826
01:23:01,709 --> 01:22:59,500
why I was asking you if I had time to

1827
01:23:02,310 --> 01:23:01,719
dig into this because this is really

1828
01:23:03,900 --> 01:23:02,320
weird

1829
01:23:08,910 --> 01:23:03,910
but I think that you and your listeners

1830
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:08,920
will appreciate this 15 years ago and of

1831
01:23:12,450 --> 01:23:11,050
course since I have a laboratory I'm one

1832
01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:12,460
of those guys if you tell me there's a

1833
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:15,790
piece of technology out there that is

1834
01:23:20,850 --> 01:23:18,310
exotic I will buy it I'm a sucker for

1835
01:23:22,890 --> 01:23:20,860
any kind of weirdo cop gadget that I

1836
01:23:23,770 --> 01:23:22,900
hear about even if it doesn't work find

1837
01:23:24,850 --> 01:23:23,780
out

1838
01:23:27,730 --> 01:23:24,860
with it and then I'll say it doesn't

1839
01:23:30,340 --> 01:23:27,740
work 15 years ago

1840
01:23:32,350 --> 01:23:30,350
I heard about these radionics devices

1841
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:32,360
called wishing machines which are

1842
01:23:36,940 --> 01:23:34,610
basically these boxes that have an input

1843
01:23:39,190 --> 01:23:36,950
plate for a wish if you will an

1844
01:23:42,070 --> 01:23:39,200
intention and an output plate and knobs

1845
01:23:44,350 --> 01:23:42,080
that you can use to tune this box and I

1846
01:23:47,170 --> 01:23:44,360
thought man this sounds like the scam of

1847
01:23:48,910 --> 01:23:47,180
the century I love this you know and I

1848
01:23:52,750 --> 01:23:48,920
bought one of these quote-unquote

1849
01:23:55,090 --> 01:23:52,760
wishing machines for $300 from a guy in

1850
01:23:58,270 --> 01:23:55,100
California now all right now that might

1851
01:24:01,300 --> 01:23:58,280
be a real coup or maybe you just lost

1852
01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:01,310
$300 well but you see here's the thing I

1853
01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:03,350
thought why I'm gonna be clever here I

1854
01:24:09,670 --> 01:24:05,750
got the machine and the first thing I

1855
01:24:13,180 --> 01:24:09,680
did was wish for my $300 back well

1856
01:24:14,710 --> 01:24:13,190
here's the ironic part of this I'm

1857
01:24:17,980 --> 01:24:14,720
knowing this kind of tongue-in-cheek

1858
01:24:20,890 --> 01:24:17,990
a few days later I got a call from a

1859
01:24:22,660 --> 01:24:20,900
major resort in Asheville and they said

1860
01:24:25,150 --> 01:24:22,670
we have a group of dentists who have

1861
01:24:28,660 --> 01:24:25,160
come into town and they need somebody to

1862
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:28,670
tell them stories about our area for a

1863
01:24:35,140 --> 01:24:33,050
one-hour soiree and they're paying $300

1864
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:35,150
and I thought well that's interesting

1865
01:24:40,330 --> 01:24:37,010
because that's the exact amount that I'd

1866
01:24:41,230 --> 01:24:40,340
wish for I started experimenting with

1867
01:24:43,900 --> 01:24:41,240
this thing

1868
01:24:46,810 --> 01:24:43,910
this wishing machine and over the years

1869
01:24:49,870 --> 01:24:46,820
everything I wished for actually came

1870
01:24:52,030 --> 01:24:49,880
true and I was obviously surprised by

1871
01:24:54,340 --> 01:24:52,040
this the reason I'm telling you this

1872
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:54,350
story is that several years ago I was

1873
01:24:58,540 --> 01:24:56,210
sitting at my house in Western North

1874
01:25:01,090 --> 01:24:58,550
Carolina in the middle of February there

1875
01:25:04,510 --> 01:25:01,100
was several inches of snow on the ground

1876
01:25:06,370 --> 01:25:04,520
and the power had been going out and I

1877
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,380
was just starting to get really fed up

1878
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:08,480
with the winter at that point and I said

1879
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you know I wish I was on a tropical

1880
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:14,840
island so I got on my computer and I

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01:25:19,780 --> 01:25:17,690
typed tropical island into Google and

1882
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:19,790
did a search and I looked at all the

1883
01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:21,710
pictures that came up I think I think

1884
01:25:27,670 --> 01:25:23,510
the phrase I typed in was tropical beach

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01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:27,680
and I just picked one saved it printed

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01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:30,530
it out put it on my wishing machine tune

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01:25:36,970 --> 01:25:34,370
the thing within I would say no more

1888
01:25:39,670 --> 01:25:36,980
than seven or eight days I got an email

1889
01:25:43,390 --> 01:25:39,680
from a guy named Michael Rivera who

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01:25:45,790 --> 01:25:43,400
lives in cabo rojo puerto rico and he

1891
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:45,800
said I have paranormal activity at my

1892
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:47,210
house I would like for it to be

1893
01:25:50,979 --> 01:25:49,250
professionally investigated if you will

1894
01:25:52,930 --> 01:25:50,989
do this I'll pay you and I'll pay for

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01:25:55,540 --> 01:25:52,940
your trip to come down here to Puerto

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01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:55,550
Rico and I was like I'm there you know

1897
01:25:59,440 --> 01:25:57,650
this is the middle of winter so I hop on

1898
01:26:02,470 --> 01:25:59,450
an airplane I come down here to Puerto

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01:26:05,020 --> 01:26:02,480
Rico while I'm here I meet a woman who's

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01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:05,030
a realtor she showed me this condo right

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01:26:08,590 --> 01:26:06,170
here on the beach

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01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:08,600
this perfect I was able to work it out

1903
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:10,489
so that I could actually get this place

1904
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:13,520
I flew back to North Carolina I told my

1905
01:26:17,860 --> 01:26:15,530
wife pack your bags were going to Puerto

1906
01:26:20,380 --> 01:26:17,870
Rico I'm in there and were packing up

1907
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:20,390
everything I looked over and I saw the

1908
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:22,489
machine sitting there with that little

1909
01:26:26,530 --> 01:26:24,650
picture of the tropical beach and I

1910
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:26,540
thought man this thing really works and

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01:26:32,770 --> 01:26:29,210
so I sat down in front of my computer

1912
01:26:35,020 --> 01:26:32,780
and I brought up that image and I did a

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01:26:39,729 --> 01:26:35,030
search on the name of that image and I

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01:26:43,270 --> 01:26:39,739
swear to you I swear that picture was a

1915
01:26:46,870 --> 01:26:43,280
picture unbeknownst to me of the bokor

1916
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:46,880
own beach which is the the beach that is

1917
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:50,570
right here next to this condo now there

1918
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:54,410
is no way out of me selecting a random

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01:26:58,780 --> 01:26:56,210
picture of a quote-unquote tropical

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beach that it could have just happened

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01:27:04,270 --> 01:27:01,370
to be the beach that is literally at

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01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:04,280
this spot on earth and so I became

1923
01:27:09,130 --> 01:27:07,280
fascinated with these devices my

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01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:09,140
websites got a lot of information about

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01:27:13,450 --> 01:27:11,030
them because now I've started keeping

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01:27:16,060 --> 01:27:13,460
track of people's results when they have

1927
01:27:16,510 --> 01:27:16,070
these machines I'm not selling these

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01:27:18,910 --> 01:27:16,520
things

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01:27:21,220 --> 01:27:18,920
I mean people buy them all over the

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01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:21,230
world and have these amazing experiences

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01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:22,730
we're trying to understand how they work

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so the main reason I ended up here is

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01:27:31,990 --> 01:27:29,450
you know it I always was interested in

1934
01:27:34,570 --> 01:27:32,000
this area but then that experience

1935
01:27:36,700 --> 01:27:34,580
happened to me and now that I'm here I

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01:27:39,340 --> 01:27:36,710
formed this base called the Bermuda

1937
01:27:42,790 --> 01:27:39,350
Triangle Base I am the first guy in

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01:27:45,910 --> 01:27:42,800
history who has live cameras around the

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01:27:47,709 --> 01:27:45,920
hot spots where UFOs are seen and we're

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01:27:49,610 --> 01:27:47,719
documenting things that have never been

1941
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:49,620
documented here before

1942
01:27:55,700 --> 01:27:52,850
so whether it comes to ghosts UFOs

1943
01:27:57,770 --> 01:27:55,710
cryptids psychic phenomena I could get

1944
01:27:59,690 --> 01:27:57,780
very detailed if you'd like but this

1945
01:28:01,880 --> 01:27:59,700
place has got probably more paranormal

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01:28:04,430 --> 01:28:01,890
activity per square foot than any place

1947
01:28:06,350 --> 01:28:04,440
I've investigated in the world where

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01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:06,360
exactly in Puerto Rico are you are you

1949
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:08,940
in the northeast portion by El Yunque or

1950
01:28:13,670 --> 01:28:11,730
where are you I'm in the southwest

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01:28:15,290 --> 01:28:13,680
so exactly opposite of that you know

1952
01:28:17,630 --> 01:28:15,300
most people who come to Puerto Rico

1953
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:17,640
obviously they go to San Juan as they

1954
01:28:22,250 --> 01:28:20,880
should and which San Juan is you know

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01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:22,260
beautiful in the history they're

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01:28:25,820 --> 01:28:23,040
striking

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01:28:28,490 --> 01:28:25,830
it's the oldest city in US territory as

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01:28:31,220 --> 01:28:28,500
you know the old junk a rainforest is

1959
01:28:33,860 --> 01:28:31,230
nearby but if you go to the southwestern

1960
01:28:36,860 --> 01:28:33,870
part that's where you have the UFO hot

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01:28:39,050 --> 01:28:36,870
spots and unfortunately you also have

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01:28:41,540 --> 01:28:39,060
some of the best waters for snorkeling

1963
01:28:44,300 --> 01:28:41,550
and and fun in the Sun so there are a

1964
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:44,310
lot of good reasons to be here well you

1965
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:45,450
know you talked about this wishing

1966
01:28:50,090 --> 01:28:46,890
machine first of all I can't stand the

1967
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:50,100
name because it really smacks over I

1968
01:28:58,340 --> 01:28:54,170
don't know just something it's Steven

1969
01:29:00,920 --> 01:28:58,350
come up with I don't want to dig into

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01:29:03,110 --> 01:29:00,930
this a little bit here you know one

1971
01:29:06,200 --> 01:29:03,120
person's wishing machine could be

1972
01:29:09,770 --> 01:29:06,210
another person's paperweight first of

1973
01:29:12,950 --> 01:29:09,780
all why don't you give us our neophytes

1974
01:29:14,330 --> 01:29:12,960
in radionics which i think most people

1975
01:29:17,650 --> 01:29:14,340
listening the show would probably be

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classified as don't you give them a

1977
01:29:22,730 --> 01:29:20,250
thumbnail sketch first of all the the

1978
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:22,740
field of radionics what it is how it

1979
01:29:27,860 --> 01:29:24,810
works and how it's been applied in this

1980
01:29:29,780 --> 01:29:27,870
particular piece of equipment well you

1981
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:29,790
know the funny thing about radionics is

1982
01:29:36,710 --> 01:29:34,050
nobody knows how this stuff works and

1983
01:29:40,700 --> 01:29:36,720
what I have found in my experiments is

1984
01:29:43,250 --> 01:29:40,710
that it seems to work only within the

1985
01:29:45,470 --> 01:29:43,260
laws of nature so if you get one of

1986
01:29:48,830 --> 01:29:45,480
these machines and you wish to fly like

1987
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:48,840
Superman or live forever I mean that's

1988
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:50,250
not gonna happen so there are

1989
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:52,710
limitations but it's almost like if you

1990
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:55,110
wish for something that is possible then

1991
01:30:01,010 --> 01:29:57,510
not only will it occur but it will occur

1992
01:30:03,260 --> 01:30:01,020
more quickly than usual now this could

1993
01:30:06,380 --> 01:30:03,270
be just a very sophisticated

1994
01:30:09,290 --> 01:30:06,390
of placebo but if that's all it is who

1995
01:30:12,740 --> 01:30:09,300
cares as long as it still works and gets

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01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:12,750
the job done these boxes can vary

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usually a traditional radionics box is

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01:30:21,650 --> 01:30:19,770
it's a wooden box it has some kind of a

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01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:21,660
plate usually a metal plate like a

2000
01:30:26,900 --> 01:30:24,450
copper plate that's an input that you

2001
01:30:29,330 --> 01:30:26,910
would use to place something that

2002
01:30:31,910 --> 01:30:29,340
symbolizes your intention whatever it is

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01:30:35,030 --> 01:30:31,920
that you want to achieve let's go into

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01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:35,040
the wishing or radionics box and we box

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it in our next segment with Joshua P

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Warren and Jean and Chris you're in the

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para cast thank you for listening to GCN

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radio

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machine Joshua tell us more yeah well so

2119
01:35:33,940 --> 01:35:31,430
you've got a metal input plate and then

2120
01:35:36,010 --> 01:35:33,950
you have some kind of an output plate

2121
01:35:38,770 --> 01:35:36,020
which is usually non conductive maybe

2122
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:38,780
it's made out of plastic and the two are

2123
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:42,610
connected by this very bizarre circuit

2124
01:35:49,150 --> 01:35:46,010
and it usually includes a variety of

2125
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:49,160
quartz crystals coils that are similar

2126
01:35:54,580 --> 01:35:52,610
to Tesla type coils you have interesting

2127
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shapes that are reminiscent of sacred

2128
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geometry like cones and pyramids all

2129
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this kind of weird stuff that

2130
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scientifically makes no sense whatsoever

2131
01:36:05,410 --> 01:36:03,070
and there are usually a number of

2132
01:36:08,260 --> 01:36:05,420
potentiometers which are just like radio

2133
01:36:11,020 --> 01:36:08,270
volume knobs that are in the middle nine

2134
01:36:13,180 --> 01:36:11,030
is a good standard number and so

2135
01:36:15,610 --> 01:36:13,190
basically what you do is you go through

2136
01:36:17,650 --> 01:36:15,620
a process of symbolizing what you want

2137
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:17,660
to achieve on the input plate and then

2138
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:21,410
you tune each one of those knobs using a

2139
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:24,530
technique which varies some people rub

2140
01:36:29,620 --> 01:36:26,890
the plate and but it's a very subjective

2141
01:36:32,500 --> 01:36:29,630
technique the idea is that you're trying

2142
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:32,510
to create a feedback loop with yourself

2143
01:36:38,350 --> 01:36:36,110
essentially so in other words if you

2144
01:36:41,260 --> 01:36:38,360
have two magnets of course if you have

2145
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:41,270
opposite sides they'll attract and if

2146
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:42,890
you have like sides they'll push apart

2147
01:36:47,530 --> 01:36:45,170
so you're trying to tune this thing so

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01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:47,540
that there's an attraction or some kind

2149
01:36:51,490 --> 01:36:49,130
of a sticky filling now there are other

2150
01:36:53,470 --> 01:36:51,500
things that you can do to tune the

2151
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:53,480
machine that ultimately again it's a

2152
01:36:59,200 --> 01:36:56,210
very subjective process and then you put

2153
01:37:02,260 --> 01:36:59,210
the Machine away in a quiet place with

2154
01:37:04,780 --> 01:37:02,270
your intention there the concept is that

2155
01:37:07,390 --> 01:37:04,790
at that point the Machine sort of takes

2156
01:37:09,970 --> 01:37:07,400
over so you know how like in the double

2157
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:09,980
slit experiment scientists claim that

2158
01:37:16,330 --> 01:37:13,330
the way the particles behave is

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01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:16,340
determined by the observer so it's

2160
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:18,110
almost like that you can put your

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01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:21,290
intention into the machine and then put

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01:37:25,690 --> 01:37:23,210
it away and you can stop thinking about

2163
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:25,700
it because now the Machine becomes the

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01:37:29,830 --> 01:37:28,250
observer for that part of your life in

2165
01:37:31,540 --> 01:37:29,840
other words if you read a lot of these

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01:37:33,340 --> 01:37:31,550
books about law of attraction and that

2167
01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:33,350
kind of thing they'll tell you you need

2168
01:37:36,850 --> 01:37:33,890
to stay

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01:37:39,220 --> 01:37:36,860
focused on what you want but that's not

2170
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:39,230
so easy especially these days so you

2171
01:37:43,090 --> 01:37:40,970
could put your intention in this thing

2172
01:37:44,830 --> 01:37:43,100
put it away and then you can go and you

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01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:44,840
know watch the football game and have

2174
01:37:49,480 --> 01:37:46,370
dinner or whatever and you don't have to

2175
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:49,490
think about it because you are somehow

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01:37:55,900 --> 01:37:52,730
taking a part of your observation shall

2177
01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,910
we say and you're symbolically and who

2178
01:38:01,570 --> 01:37:57,920
knows maybe even literally putting it

2179
01:38:05,170 --> 01:38:01,580
into this extension of yourself and from

2180
01:38:07,660 --> 01:38:05,180
there things happen now why does it work

2181
01:38:10,390 --> 01:38:07,670
again we don't know you know it goes

2182
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:10,400
back to that favorite quote of mine by

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01:38:14,250 --> 01:38:12,320
Einstein you know if we knew what we

2184
01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:14,260
were doing we wouldn't call it research

2185
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:17,090
but you know gravity was around before

2186
01:38:24,490 --> 01:38:20,480
Isaac Newton was born and so you know we

2187
01:38:26,890 --> 01:38:24,500
we don't necessarily have to understand

2188
01:38:28,660 --> 01:38:26,900
everything around us but we have to

2189
01:38:30,850 --> 01:38:28,670
first accept that something is working

2190
01:38:32,620 --> 01:38:30,860
and then then we work on trying to

2191
01:38:34,570 --> 01:38:32,630
understand how and why it works and so

2192
01:38:36,550 --> 01:38:34,580
that's pretty much where we're at right

2193
01:38:38,980 --> 01:38:36,560
now is this experimental and research

2194
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:38,990
stage okay so we're talking here about

2195
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:41,930
something that you're investigating but

2196
01:38:47,770 --> 01:38:45,650
if you went to a scientist and said okay

2197
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:47,780
here's my wishing machine what do you

2198
01:38:52,870 --> 01:38:50,090
think of it would they laugh you out of

2199
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:52,880
the room well some might but you know

2200
01:38:57,790 --> 01:38:55,610
Popular Mechanics did an article about

2201
01:39:00,730 --> 01:38:57,800
the wishing machine that came out last

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01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:00,740
year and it was actually a really

2203
01:39:05,230 --> 01:39:02,530
surprised it was a very you know

2204
01:39:07,570 --> 01:39:05,240
open-minded approach at wishing machines

2205
01:39:09,070 --> 01:39:07,580
and the connection between quantum

2206
01:39:12,340 --> 01:39:09,080
mechanics and the mysteries of

2207
01:39:14,290 --> 01:39:12,350
consciousness in fact there is a link to

2208
01:39:16,750 --> 01:39:14,300
that article I believe if you go to

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01:39:18,340 --> 01:39:16,760
Joshua P Warren calm and and click

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01:39:20,110 --> 01:39:18,350
around you'll find a link or I'm sure

2211
01:39:22,750 --> 01:39:20,120
you can just go and search for Popular

2212
01:39:24,130 --> 01:39:22,760
Mechanics and and wishing machine it

2213
01:39:26,650 --> 01:39:24,140
depends on the scientists that you're

2214
01:39:28,300 --> 01:39:26,660
talking to you know because some people

2215
01:39:31,090 --> 01:39:28,310
try to look at things in a strict

2216
01:39:33,460 --> 01:39:31,100
Newtonian fashion and it all has to be

2217
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:33,470
like you know physical particles like

2218
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:35,210
balls on a billiard table that are all

2219
01:39:39,550 --> 01:39:37,130
hitting each other and and going in a

2220
01:39:42,130 --> 01:39:39,560
very predictable pattern then you talk

2221
01:39:43,660 --> 01:39:42,140
to people who go one step beyond that

2222
01:39:46,690 --> 01:39:43,670
who are looking into the mysteries of

2223
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:46,700
time and the mysteries of multiple

2224
01:39:49,820 --> 01:39:47,040
dimensions

2225
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:49,830
and the mysteries of consciousness and

2226
01:39:54,770 --> 01:39:52,290
then those people they're very open to

2227
01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:54,780
it so I I think that you'll find if you

2228
01:40:00,080 --> 01:39:57,410
talk to some of the more advanced

2229
01:40:02,180 --> 01:40:00,090
scientists who are really digging into

2230
01:40:03,260 --> 01:40:02,190
the mysteries of the quantum world you

2231
01:40:05,210 --> 01:40:03,270
know they would say look there's

2232
01:40:07,370 --> 01:40:05,220
something to it and there are also some

2233
01:40:09,470 --> 01:40:07,380
experiments that have been done which

2234
01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:09,480
tend to to give us some insight into

2235
01:40:14,750 --> 01:40:11,910
this there was an experiment that was

2236
01:40:18,260 --> 01:40:14,760
done at the University of I believe was

2237
01:40:20,450 --> 01:40:18,270
Waterloo in Ontario Canada just a couple

2238
01:40:22,190 --> 01:40:20,460
years ago well of course I'm sure that

2239
01:40:25,910 --> 01:40:22,200
all your listeners are familiar with the

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01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:25,920
concept of entanglement what Einstein

2241
01:40:31,220 --> 01:40:28,830
called spooky action at a distance the

2242
01:40:33,430 --> 01:40:31,230
idea that two particles can

2243
01:40:36,140 --> 01:40:33,440
instantaneously affect each other

2244
01:40:38,450 --> 01:40:36,150
regardless of the distance between them

2245
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:38,460
we don't understand how that works

2246
01:40:42,590 --> 01:40:40,890
scientists accept that that is real but

2247
01:40:45,530 --> 01:40:42,600
they don't understand it how particles

2248
01:40:47,540 --> 01:40:45,540
become entangled because obviously the

2249
01:40:50,420 --> 01:40:47,550
fastest thing supposedly out there is

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01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:50,430
the speed of light 186,000 miles per

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01:40:56,300 --> 01:40:53,370
second so it should at least take long

2252
01:40:58,370 --> 01:40:56,310
enough for a beam of light to travel

2253
01:41:00,380 --> 01:40:58,380
between these two particles for one to

2254
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:00,390
influence the other but that doesn't

2255
01:41:05,270 --> 01:41:02,880
factor in here it's instantaneous well

2256
01:41:10,130 --> 01:41:05,280
at the University of Waterloo for the

2257
01:41:11,330 --> 01:41:10,140
first time ever they created multi-party

2258
01:41:14,540 --> 01:41:11,340
and tengaman

2259
01:41:18,440 --> 01:41:14,550
so what that means is they have have

2260
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:18,450
have proven that three or more particles

2261
01:41:24,170 --> 01:41:22,050
can all be entangled now that means

2262
01:41:26,750 --> 01:41:24,180
three or more particles are all capable

2263
01:41:29,570 --> 01:41:26,760
of instantaneously affecting each other

2264
01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:29,580
what this is showing us is that possibly

2265
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:33,540
the entire universe is in a state of

2266
01:41:37,970 --> 01:41:35,430
entanglement or at least much more of it

2267
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:37,980
than we previously thought and that

2268
01:41:44,150 --> 01:41:40,530
everything is directly connected in some

2269
01:41:46,340 --> 01:41:44,160
fashion so this is not some fantasy I

2270
01:41:48,050 --> 01:41:46,350
mean this is real advanced science that

2271
01:41:49,610 --> 01:41:48,060
most people don't don't know about

2272
01:41:52,250 --> 01:41:49,620
because they're you know watching their

2273
01:41:54,380 --> 01:41:52,260
soap opera or whatever and so what we

2274
01:41:57,110 --> 01:41:54,390
are our understanding is that your brain

2275
01:41:59,630 --> 01:41:57,120
and what's going on in your mind may

2276
01:42:00,560 --> 01:41:59,640
literally be connected to the

2277
01:42:03,140 --> 01:42:00,570
environment or

2278
01:42:06,350 --> 01:42:03,150
around you in ways that you've never

2279
01:42:08,899 --> 01:42:06,360
even thought about and that if you have

2280
01:42:11,569 --> 01:42:08,909
some kind of a tool that helps your

2281
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:11,579
brain to operate in a certain

2282
01:42:17,020 --> 01:42:14,639
disciplined way that you are training

2283
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:17,030
yourself to use parts of the mind that

2284
01:42:23,419 --> 01:42:20,250
people have not been usually throughout

2285
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:23,429
history training themselves to to do now

2286
01:42:27,859 --> 01:42:25,199
let me talk about the article for second

2287
01:42:31,490 --> 01:42:27,869
it's in Popular Mechanics it's dated

2288
01:42:34,819 --> 01:42:31,500
October 28th 2015 so you can check it

2289
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:34,829
online okay I'm a title of spooky action

2290
01:42:40,850 --> 01:42:38,730
at a distance the strange science of

2291
01:42:43,189 --> 01:42:40,860
radionics it's got a human interest kind

2292
01:42:44,540 --> 01:42:43,199
of story and Joshua is among those

2293
01:42:46,910 --> 01:42:44,550
interviewed at it

2294
01:42:49,209 --> 01:42:46,920
so the thing I'm interested in is the

2295
01:42:52,609 --> 01:42:49,219
fact that according to what it says here

2296
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:52,619
that these machines tend to be

2297
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:54,449
home-built it's not that you go into

2298
01:43:00,530 --> 01:42:58,050
Target and buy one can you actually buy

2299
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:00,540
one maybe a used one to give it a try

2300
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:03,530
before you spend a lot of money well I

2301
01:43:09,620 --> 01:43:06,719
don't recommend getting a used one and

2302
01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:09,630
the reason is and this is just my

2303
01:43:15,649 --> 01:43:13,679
opinion I find that these machines are

2304
01:43:17,810 --> 01:43:15,659
they become very personal it's kind of

2305
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:17,820
like when you buy a cell phone when you

2306
01:43:22,189 --> 01:43:19,710
get that cell phone it may already have

2307
01:43:24,950 --> 01:43:22,199
a little bit of basic pre programming on

2308
01:43:26,810 --> 01:43:24,960
it well you know you get the Machine and

2309
01:43:29,180 --> 01:43:26,820
after a few days of having this cell

2310
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:29,190
phone we'll say you start personalizing

2311
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:32,730
it you start putting your own content on

2312
01:43:38,419 --> 01:43:36,000
there and in and then after a month I

2313
01:43:40,129 --> 01:43:38,429
mean the the cell phone feels so

2314
01:43:42,919 --> 01:43:40,139
familiar that if you go to dinner and

2315
01:43:45,530 --> 01:43:42,929
you put it on the table it's almost like

2316
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:45,540
you have another extension of yourself

2317
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:47,250
there you have another appendage you

2318
01:43:52,819 --> 01:43:50,130
know that phone is right there and after

2319
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:52,829
a year I mean your life is on that phone

2320
01:43:56,510 --> 01:43:55,050
if you lose that phone that can become a

2321
01:43:59,149 --> 01:43:56,520
tragedy you know all your personal

2322
01:44:01,930 --> 01:43:59,159
informations on there and yeah but

2323
01:44:06,020 --> 01:44:01,940
Joshua two points here number one is

2324
01:44:09,169 --> 01:44:06,030
backup I have gotten a number of iPhones

2325
01:44:11,850 --> 01:44:09,179
over the years i back it up i restored

2326
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:11,860
that content to a new iphone

2327
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:14,290
and I have all my material with me I

2328
01:44:18,419 --> 01:44:16,270
have that extension to my life if that's

2329
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:18,429
what you want to call it when you sell

2330
01:44:23,990 --> 01:44:21,610
that device to somebody else you will

2331
01:44:27,990 --> 01:44:24,000
erase it there's a way to completely

2332
01:44:30,839 --> 01:44:28,000
blank it out remove the content that's

2333
01:44:33,839 --> 01:44:30,849
on there so that nobody else has it it's

2334
01:44:36,839 --> 01:44:33,849
like to them a new device and they can

2335
01:44:39,209 --> 01:44:36,849
go on in turn and if they have a

2336
01:44:42,629 --> 01:44:39,219
previous device they could restore it

2337
01:44:45,149 --> 01:44:42,639
and get their entire user environment

2338
01:44:48,060 --> 01:44:45,159
back unless of course you're switching

2339
01:44:50,310 --> 01:44:48,070
from Android to iPhone or vice versa

2340
01:44:52,979 --> 01:44:50,320
then you have to use different tools

2341
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,989
which are not as complete because the

2342
01:44:57,780 --> 01:44:54,880
transfer will never be perfect just want

2343
01:45:00,990 --> 01:44:57,790
to bring that out in terms of the

2344
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:01,000
smartphone so yes it takes on the

2345
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:02,770
ability of being an extension to what

2346
01:45:09,270 --> 01:45:05,290
you do but you're not restricted to a

2347
01:45:11,609 --> 01:45:09,280
single device you can always upgrade it

2348
01:45:13,740 --> 01:45:11,619
you could I it's very easy to do I think

2349
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:13,750
it takes about a half hour for me to set

2350
01:45:18,030 --> 01:45:15,489
up a brand new iPhone and I do that with

2351
01:45:20,100 --> 01:45:18,040
my computers also I use Mac's and to

2352
01:45:23,910 --> 01:45:20,110
transfer my environment from a backup

2353
01:45:26,430 --> 01:45:23,920
may take two three hours but then I'm

2354
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:26,440
back to where I was at the beginning we

2355
01:45:39,149 --> 01:45:28,210
got more to come with Joshua Warren and

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thank you for listening to GCN be sure

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welcome back to the para cast the gold

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standard of paranormal radio and now

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here's Jane Steinberg so Joshua I think

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you see the point I was raising but I

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suspect maybe you had a different one

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01:48:20,700 --> 01:48:18,100
well yeah I mean that's a very literal

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01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:20,710
interpretation of what I was saying

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01:48:24,840 --> 01:48:23,290
because again this it's not a cellphone

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you know but that gives you an example

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like I for example I don't buy you

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cellphones and I don't hold it against

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somebody who does buy you cellphone but

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I don't do that so I would say you know

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if somebody wants to go buy a used

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wishing machine yeah go for it you know

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if you want to build the machine

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yourself there is a ton of great

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literature out there that you can get

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for free about how to build one charles

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casa mano as an author who has written

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01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:49,660
many books about how to build these

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things or if you're like me and you

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don't have time and you just want to buy

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01:48:59,310 --> 01:48:56,200
one again you know if you go to my

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01:49:01,140 --> 01:48:59,320
website joshua p warned calm you'll find

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01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:01,150
that you can buy one there if you're

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like me and you want to experiment with

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01:49:07,290 --> 01:49:04,900
these things and you know there are

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people out there who charge thousands of

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01:49:11,850 --> 01:49:10,390
dollars for a wishing machine and you

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don't have to take my word for it you

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01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:13,330
can go on the internet and look up

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01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:15,610
radionics and see some of the

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01:49:20,040 --> 01:49:17,650
astronomical prices that people are

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asking the fella that i had teamed up

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01:49:24,750 --> 01:49:22,030
with is a guy who builds these in south

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01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:24,760
carolina he builds some of the very best

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in the world i think they're the best

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because i've had a lot of success using

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them over the years and you can get one

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01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:32,980
of his for a hundred and ninety five

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01:49:38,130 --> 01:49:35,890
dollars you know again if you're the

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type of person who doesn't want to

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01:49:44,010 --> 01:49:40,989
experiment yeah don't experiment but if

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01:49:45,780 --> 01:49:44,020
you want to experiment like me know this

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01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:45,790
is an opportunity for you to get one of

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01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:48,280
these things and try it out but you know

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01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:50,650
again this could just be an elaborate

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placebo or it could be a real technology

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personally I think it's a real

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01:49:59,700 --> 01:49:57,280
technology I think there's something

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about these circuits that has to do with

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with the crystals within them and the

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reason I say that is that Hitachi

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developed a court

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Christel slide really it looks about

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like if you were to take a microscope

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slide and and slice it in half

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they developed a little quartz crystal

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material about that size which can hold

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01:50:28,220 --> 01:50:24,900
hundreds of terabytes of information and

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is able to withstand temperatures of

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thousands of degrees Fahrenheit without

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losing that information quartz crystal

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has this incredible ability to store

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info and so when you have complete

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crystals incorporated in there I think

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that maybe they play a key role in

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storing up something about the the

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consciousness that we don't understand

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at this point that doesn't sound right

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the quartz has a melting point that's

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way less than thousands of degrees I

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mean you get heat up to 2,500 2,000 to

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2,500 degrees that quartz is melting

2485
01:51:03,770 --> 01:51:02,100
well that's pretty high isn't it you

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01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:03,780
know I mean you can read the story go on

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online yourself don't take my word for

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it this is a news story about Hitachi

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developing a a quartz storage medium

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yeah I mean maybe it's 2,000 degrees

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that's pretty darn hot my girlfriend in

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college you do look online you will see

2493
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:27,660
a number of radionics boxes of some sort

2494
01:51:32,530 --> 01:51:30,060
at different prices so just to point

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that out and of course it's I guess

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among all the things that one could do

2497
01:51:40,220 --> 01:51:38,460
it's not a lot of money so if it's just

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something it doesn't really work to your

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satisfaction I don't know I don't think

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it's so harmful it's not like somebody

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charging you a few thousand dollars to

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go on a UFO hunt and then signing a

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01:51:55,880 --> 01:51:54,510
nondisclosure agreement just at least at

2504
01:51:59,090 --> 01:51:55,890
least you get some you know some

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01:52:01,190 --> 01:51:59,100
tangible product in your hand as opposed

2506
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:01,200
to investing the you know ungodly

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01:52:05,780 --> 01:52:02,850
amounts of money and free energy devices

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01:52:10,190 --> 01:52:05,790
that are never delivered which another

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01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:10,200
Asheville residents been accused of on

2510
01:52:16,040 --> 01:52:14,400
enough over the years I think dr. Greer

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01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:16,050
still there in the Asheville area I

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01:52:20,330 --> 01:52:19,170
don't I don't know actually I'm not sure

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01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:20,340
if he's there or not I

2514
01:52:24,290 --> 01:52:22,890
I know that dr. Greer used to live in

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01:52:26,570 --> 01:52:24,300
Asheville but I don't know if he's still

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01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:26,580
around and and and I really don't know

2517
01:52:31,790 --> 01:52:29,610
dr. Greer either so no well he's one of

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01:52:33,950 --> 01:52:31,800
our favorite kind of whipping whipping

2519
01:52:37,070 --> 01:52:33,960
boys at the pear caste because of his

2520
01:52:38,930 --> 01:52:37,080
very checkered history and and some of

2521
01:52:40,010 --> 01:52:38,940
the outrageous claims and and and

2522
01:52:41,270 --> 01:52:40,020
whatnot that he's made over the years

2523
01:52:43,220 --> 01:52:41,280
and all the money that's been invested

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01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:43,230
in free energy devices it never seemed

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to be brought forth or you know put

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01:52:50,570 --> 01:52:49,500
forward which is unfortunate because you

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01:52:52,490 --> 01:52:50,580
know there's a sucker born every minute

2528
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:52,500
and I think we all agree that there's a

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01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:53,850
lot of very gullible people out there

2530
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:56,010
that want to believe that want to buy

2531
01:53:01,730 --> 01:52:58,050
into things and it's only when you have

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01:53:04,730 --> 01:53:01,740
I think like what you're describing is

2533
01:53:07,790 --> 01:53:04,740
it is a research and a educational curve

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01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:07,800
if you have questions about a device or

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01:53:13,730 --> 01:53:11,730
a technique or a belief or a case or

2536
01:53:16,730 --> 01:53:13,740
whatever it might be you shouldn't take

2537
01:53:18,230 --> 01:53:16,740
my word for it or my opinion or jeans or

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01:53:20,810 --> 01:53:18,240
Joshua's you should you know go out

2539
01:53:23,210 --> 01:53:20,820
there and get a sampling of opinions and

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01:53:25,610 --> 01:53:23,220
then based on the conclusion that you

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01:53:27,530 --> 01:53:25,620
come up with which you work out after

2542
01:53:30,500 --> 01:53:27,540
doing the research then you can make an

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01:53:34,550 --> 01:53:30,510
informed decision or choice or or create

2544
01:53:36,740 --> 01:53:34,560
some some form of position in regards to

2545
01:53:38,630 --> 01:53:36,750
whatever it is that you're interested in

2546
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:38,640
and researching and something like a

2547
01:53:41,660 --> 01:53:40,410
radionics device of course I've heard

2548
01:53:44,150 --> 01:53:41,670
about them on and off over the years

2549
01:53:46,370 --> 01:53:44,160
I've never really had a chance to play

2550
01:53:48,860 --> 01:53:46,380
around with them but you know you you

2551
01:53:52,190 --> 01:53:48,870
run into this a lot in the especially in

2552
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:52,200
the haunted site you know investigative

2553
01:53:58,070 --> 01:53:54,810
community things like the Ovilus and in

2554
01:54:00,710 --> 01:53:58,080
other the Spear calm and and other

2555
01:54:03,110 --> 01:54:00,720
devices that though invariably come out

2556
01:54:04,730 --> 01:54:03,120
every few years and I have done some

2557
01:54:07,810 --> 01:54:04,740
work with some of those the ovule acai

2558
01:54:09,890 --> 01:54:07,820
found was very intriguing a random

2559
01:54:12,410 --> 01:54:09,900
syllable and word generator

2560
01:54:15,230 --> 01:54:12,420
I saw examples of entire sentences

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01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:15,240
questions being answered which totally

2562
01:54:21,350 --> 01:54:19,410
fly in the face of a probability so you

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01:54:22,940 --> 01:54:21,360
know I do have a sneaking suspicion that

2564
01:54:29,420 --> 01:54:22,950
you're right that there is something

2565
01:54:31,930 --> 01:54:29,430
very very intriguing at the core of some

2566
01:54:33,580 --> 01:54:31,940
of these claim technologies but

2567
01:54:36,070 --> 01:54:33,590
for every one of those you've got a half

2568
01:54:39,850 --> 01:54:36,080
a dozen dozen of others there aren't

2569
01:54:43,330 --> 01:54:39,860
worth the the materials it took to put

2570
01:54:45,570 --> 01:54:43,340
them together so you know copy a temp

2571
01:54:48,310 --> 01:54:45,580
door I guess would be the best way to

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01:54:50,620 --> 01:54:48,320
sum it up Joshua I was thinking

2573
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:50,630
something here as most of our listeners

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01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:52,310
know because we have a second radio show

2575
01:54:57,130 --> 01:54:54,410
the tech night a live I've been

2576
01:55:01,540 --> 01:54:57,140
reviewing electronic components for

2577
01:55:03,670 --> 01:55:01,550
probably I don't know 25 years I get

2578
01:55:06,790 --> 01:55:03,680
them from different companies Apple has

2579
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:06,800
sent me you merchandise over the years

2580
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:09,770
for example for about two months I had

2581
01:55:14,860 --> 01:55:12,320
one of their IMAX with 5k Retina

2582
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:14,870
displays a $2,500 computer they've sent

2583
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:18,050
me iPhones to review iPads etc would you

2584
01:55:23,340 --> 01:55:20,210
be interested here here's the challenge

2585
01:55:27,010 --> 01:55:23,350
Joshua Warren currently on your site

2586
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:27,020
you're selling three different versions

2587
01:55:33,070 --> 01:55:30,400
of a radionics device or wishing machine

2588
01:55:35,830 --> 01:55:33,080
would you be willing to send one over to

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01:55:36,570 --> 01:55:35,840
me to try out let the dice fall within

2590
01:55:41,490 --> 01:55:36,580
me

2591
01:55:43,900 --> 01:55:41,500
makes them as you know I don't make them

2592
01:55:48,220 --> 01:55:43,910
but I think he would be more than happy

2593
01:55:51,220 --> 01:55:48,230
to and in fact we have we frequently

2594
01:55:54,370 --> 01:55:51,230
will do that I mean George Noory has one

2595
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:54,380
Dave Schrader has one Heather wait who

2596
01:55:59,229 --> 01:55:57,290
host midnight in the desert I was on her

2597
01:56:00,850 --> 01:55:59,239
program the other night and she was

2598
01:56:03,670 --> 01:56:00,860
telling me the first time she ever

2599
01:56:06,010 --> 01:56:03,680
watched a wishing machine video that she

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01:56:08,350 --> 01:56:06,020
was laughing she thought it was so

2601
01:56:10,110 --> 01:56:08,360
ridiculous and then we sent her one and

2602
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:10,120
now she says this has changed my life

2603
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:13,010
and Dave Schrader you know if you go to

2604
01:56:18,070 --> 01:56:15,110
our web site wishing machine project

2605
01:56:20,729 --> 01:56:18,080
comm you can hear audio of him talking

2606
01:56:23,830 --> 01:56:20,739
about all of his wishes coming true so

2607
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:23,840
yeah I mean I'll ask dr. Mulder I'm sure

2608
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:24,770
he'll be fine with that

2609
01:56:30,340 --> 01:56:27,170
we call him dr. Mulder because he the

2610
01:56:33,729 --> 01:56:30,350
guy who makes these things he's not like

2611
01:56:35,380 --> 01:56:33,739
I am he's a very private person I guess

2612
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:35,390
he's a normal person really is what that

2613
01:56:41,919 --> 01:56:39,890
means and he he has he found out that

2614
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:41,929
when you get a reputation as a guy who

2615
01:56:46,060 --> 01:56:45,199
builds wishing machines people will beat

2616
01:56:48,250 --> 01:56:46,070
a path

2617
01:56:52,270 --> 01:56:48,260
your door and you know crawl in your

2618
01:56:54,459 --> 01:56:52,280
windows so we call him dr. Molter that's

2619
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:54,469
his nickname but no honestly I don't see

2620
01:56:58,629 --> 01:56:56,570
any problem with us sending you one so

2621
01:57:02,379 --> 01:56:58,639
that you can do your own objective

2622
01:57:05,589 --> 01:57:02,389
research and and you know frankly I

2623
01:57:07,810 --> 01:57:05,599
think that that is just part of human

2624
01:57:10,750 --> 01:57:07,820
nature I mean I can tell you all day

2625
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:10,760
long about my experience seeing a ghost

2626
01:57:15,729 --> 01:57:12,770
and I can even show you the picture I

2627
01:57:17,830 --> 01:57:15,739
took and everything else and I might be

2628
01:57:19,330 --> 01:57:17,840
able to convince you that my experience

2629
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:19,340
was real but there's always gonna be

2630
01:57:23,649 --> 01:57:22,010
some little part of your brain there

2631
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:23,659
something in the back of your mind that

2632
01:57:27,580 --> 01:57:26,719
is going to think man unless I see this

2633
01:57:31,180 --> 01:57:27,590
myself

2634
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:31,190
I'm not going to believe it we've got

2635
01:57:35,319 --> 01:57:33,770
more to come with Joshua Warren and

2636
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:35,329
we'll talk about getting me a wishing

2637
01:57:39,819 --> 01:57:37,610
machine if that's possible more to come

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with Chien and Kris you're in the para

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constipation for years I thought it

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so listeners we're in the process of

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02:02:17,110 --> 02:02:14,750
trying to work this out and hopefully in

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the near future we'll see one of these

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machines now give it a try and we'll try

2755
02:02:23,350 --> 02:02:20,989
the kind of experiments that your

2756
02:02:25,450 --> 02:02:23,360
listeners might suggest to see what it

2757
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:25,460
really does Joshua has my mailing

2758
02:02:30,340 --> 02:02:27,770
address and phone number as we speak in

2759
02:02:32,260 --> 02:02:30,350
his chat window on skype so we'll see

2760
02:02:33,850 --> 02:02:32,270
what happens now you brought up before I

2761
02:02:35,860 --> 02:02:33,860
wanted to kind of segue back to that

2762
02:02:37,660 --> 02:02:35,870
mentioning that you're in the Bermuda

2763
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:37,670
Triangle area now of course we've heard

2764
02:02:42,850 --> 02:02:40,010
all the legends about the Bermuda

2765
02:02:44,830 --> 02:02:42,860
Triangle and I remember specifically

2766
02:02:46,180 --> 02:02:44,840
reading about that in the early UFO

2767
02:02:48,700 --> 02:02:46,190
books because it was always that

2768
02:02:50,950 --> 02:02:48,710
resemblance matric EO talked about it I

2769
02:02:52,419 --> 02:02:50,960
was a friend of the late Charles Berlitz

2770
02:02:55,090 --> 02:02:52,429
who wrote one of the best-selling books

2771
02:02:58,330 --> 02:02:55,100
on the Bermuda Triangle which had that

2772
02:03:00,399 --> 02:02:58,340
title back in the late 70s so I followed

2773
02:03:03,220 --> 02:03:00,409
it over the years now the skeptical

2774
02:03:06,820 --> 02:03:03,230
viewpoint Joshua here is that the reason

2775
02:03:09,729 --> 02:03:06,830
things happen plane ships disappear or

2776
02:03:12,760 --> 02:03:09,739
are wrecked is because the weather

2777
02:03:15,729 --> 02:03:12,770
conditions out there tend to be

2778
02:03:17,439 --> 02:03:15,739
unpredictable tend to be unusual that's

2779
02:03:19,570 --> 02:03:17,449
all just natural that these things

2780
02:03:21,450 --> 02:03:19,580
happen what's your take well you know

2781
02:03:23,890 --> 02:03:21,460
I'm glad you asked this question because

2782
02:03:25,209 --> 02:03:23,900
when most people think of the Bermuda

2783
02:03:27,939 --> 02:03:25,219
Triangle the first thing they think

2784
02:03:30,490 --> 02:03:27,949
about are the disappearances but

2785
02:03:32,979 --> 02:03:30,500
actually that's not what makes this area

2786
02:03:33,939 --> 02:03:32,989
so special first let me just address the

2787
02:03:35,680 --> 02:03:33,949
disappearances if

2788
02:03:37,509 --> 02:03:35,690
you want to ship something through this

2789
02:03:39,699 --> 02:03:37,519
area and you want to ensure that

2790
02:03:41,350 --> 02:03:39,709
shipment it doesn't cost you any more

2791
02:03:43,839 --> 02:03:41,360
money than it would to ship anywhere

2792
02:03:46,600 --> 02:03:43,849
else statistically there are no higher

2793
02:03:50,140 --> 02:03:46,610
odds of you disappearing here however

2794
02:03:52,959 --> 02:03:50,150
when those disappearances do occur they

2795
02:03:56,890 --> 02:03:52,969
are pretty freaky obviously most people

2796
02:03:58,509 --> 02:03:56,900
know about flight 19 these five bombers

2797
02:04:02,229 --> 02:03:58,519
that disappeared on a training mission

2798
02:04:04,299 --> 02:04:02,239
in 1945 and then of course a rescue

2799
02:04:07,029 --> 02:04:04,309
plane was sent out and it also

2800
02:04:09,729 --> 02:04:07,039
disappeared so when these disappearances

2801
02:04:11,890 --> 02:04:09,739
occur they're pretty extraordinary but

2802
02:04:16,449 --> 02:04:11,900
what I found is that it goes beyond the

2803
02:04:20,020 --> 02:04:16,459
disappearances it goes to the wide range

2804
02:04:22,299 --> 02:04:20,030
of paranormal phenomena in general that

2805
02:04:24,549 --> 02:04:22,309
happens to occur around this part of the

2806
02:04:26,500 --> 02:04:24,559
world let's just start here for example

2807
02:04:29,500 --> 02:04:26,510
in Puerto Rico where I'm joining you

2808
02:04:31,750 --> 02:04:29,510
from right now of course as I mentioned

2809
02:04:34,930 --> 02:04:31,760
earlier we have San Juan here which is

2810
02:04:37,180 --> 02:04:34,940
the oldest city in US territory by the

2811
02:04:41,020 --> 02:04:37,190
way when Columbus came here on his

2812
02:04:43,509 --> 02:04:41,030
second voyage and in 1493 he experienced

2813
02:04:46,299 --> 02:04:43,519
a lot of weird stuff I think on his

2814
02:04:48,910 --> 02:04:46,309
first voyage in 1492 he talked about his

2815
02:04:51,850 --> 02:04:48,920
compass going haywire as he entered this

2816
02:04:53,589 --> 02:04:51,860
area and on seeing weird lights in the

2817
02:04:57,430 --> 02:04:53,599
sky that he couldn't explain I mean even

2818
02:05:00,069 --> 02:04:57,440
Columbus but but anyway san1 has plenty

2819
02:05:01,989 --> 02:05:00,079
of haunted spots and catacombs under

2820
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:01,999
various parts the city and so there are

2821
02:05:06,729 --> 02:05:04,610
plenty of ghosts when it comes to UFOs

2822
02:05:09,879 --> 02:05:06,739
well for one thing you've got the

2823
02:05:13,509 --> 02:05:09,889
Arecibo Observatory here which is the

2824
02:05:15,850 --> 02:05:13,519
largest satellite dish on earth or radio

2825
02:05:17,949 --> 02:05:15,860
satellite dish on earth I think the

2826
02:05:20,049 --> 02:05:17,959
Chinese are in the process of building a

2827
02:05:21,939 --> 02:05:20,059
bigger one but still I mean this is the

2828
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:21,949
the dish that you've seen in the movies

2829
02:05:28,930 --> 02:05:27,199
like contact or James Bond Goldeneye so

2830
02:05:31,930 --> 02:05:28,940
there is a lot of interaction that takes

2831
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:31,940
place between the the scientist and and

2832
02:05:35,859 --> 02:05:33,679
trying to you know attempt to

2833
02:05:40,540 --> 02:05:35,869
communicate with beings from beyond it's

2834
02:05:42,040 --> 02:05:40,550
a big big UFO and us oh hot spot and of

2835
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:42,050
course us those are the ones that go in

2836
02:05:45,399 --> 02:05:43,010
and out of the water

2837
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:45,409
when it comes to cryptids well this is

2838
02:05:50,200 --> 02:05:47,690
the birthplace of the chupa

2839
02:05:53,110 --> 02:05:50,210
Cobra and the chupacabra is not some

2840
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:53,120
kind of mangy coyote like the media

2841
02:05:57,100 --> 02:05:54,890
would lead you to believe when they find

2842
02:05:57,939 --> 02:05:57,110
one of those things in the American

2843
02:06:00,660 --> 02:05:57,949
Southwest

2844
02:06:03,610 --> 02:06:00,670
now the chupacabra is a bipedal

2845
02:06:06,370 --> 02:06:03,620
alien-looking creature with big black

2846
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:06,380
eyes and spines running down its back

2847
02:06:10,600 --> 02:06:09,050
that seems to teleport itself and there

2848
02:06:12,700 --> 02:06:10,610
all kinds of stories I can tell you

2849
02:06:15,550 --> 02:06:12,710
about that when it comes to psychic

2850
02:06:17,979 --> 02:06:15,560
phenomena I mean you have so many areas

2851
02:06:20,170 --> 02:06:17,989
around here where people experience

2852
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:20,180
miracles you've got you've got natural

2853
02:06:26,860 --> 02:06:23,170
wonders here in fact there are more

2854
02:06:30,010 --> 02:06:26,870
year-round active bioluminescent Bay's

2855
02:06:33,280 --> 02:06:30,020
here than there are anywhere else in the

2856
02:06:34,900 --> 02:06:33,290
world so all that said I could really

2857
02:06:37,209 --> 02:06:34,910
dig deep into all the paranormal

2858
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:37,219
activity that's focused here but I

2859
02:06:43,420 --> 02:06:40,730
started looking into why like why what's

2860
02:06:45,370 --> 02:06:43,430
so special about this area years ago and

2861
02:06:50,260 --> 02:06:45,380
then I realized something

2862
02:06:53,410 --> 02:06:50,270
NASA produces these maps that are called

2863
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:53,420
gravity maps and they show you the

2864
02:06:58,630 --> 02:06:55,610
strength of the Earth's gravitational

2865
02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:58,640
field at various spots around the planet

2866
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:00,560
places where the field is a little

2867
02:07:06,850 --> 02:07:04,370
stronger are denoted in red and places

2868
02:07:09,010 --> 02:07:06,860
where it's weaker are denoted in blue

2869
02:07:11,290 --> 02:07:09,020
because going back to what we were

2870
02:07:13,270 --> 02:07:11,300
talking about earlier with gravity and

2871
02:07:16,090 --> 02:07:13,280
and time and space and all that you know

2872
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:16,100
earth is not a perfect sphere and it's

2873
02:07:19,330 --> 02:07:17,810
full of all kinds of weird minerals and

2874
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:19,340
so the gravitational field is very

2875
02:07:24,490 --> 02:07:21,290
inconsistent well if you look at these

2876
02:07:27,330 --> 02:07:24,500
maps this area that we called the

2877
02:07:29,709 --> 02:07:27,340
Bermuda Triangle has some of the lowest

2878
02:07:32,880 --> 02:07:29,719
gravity so to speak some of the lowest

2879
02:07:36,070 --> 02:07:32,890
strength some of the weakest gravity on

2880
02:07:37,870 --> 02:07:36,080
planet earth and in fact if you look

2881
02:07:39,880 --> 02:07:37,880
right here in the middle of the Bermuda

2882
02:07:41,890 --> 02:07:39,890
Triangle so to speak if you look at the

2883
02:07:42,220 --> 02:07:41,900
island of Puerto Rico where I am right

2884
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:42,230
now

2885
02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:46,250
the gravity here is so weak that on that

2886
02:07:53,709 --> 02:07:50,090
map the blue is so dark you literally

2887
02:07:56,380 --> 02:07:53,719
cannot even see the island itself on the

2888
02:07:58,360 --> 02:07:56,390
map it just blotted out I began to study

2889
02:08:01,320 --> 02:07:58,370
the potential relationship between

2890
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:01,330
gravity and paranormal

2891
02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:04,090
chances I'm still in the process of

2892
02:08:07,740 --> 02:08:05,920
studying this but I found this

2893
02:08:10,110 --> 02:08:07,750
interesting correlation that I've never

2894
02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:10,120
heard anybody else ever talk about and

2895
02:08:16,920 --> 02:08:13,900
that is that at places that have a

2896
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:16,930
weaker gravitational field according to

2897
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:20,110
my research more people have reported

2898
02:08:24,510 --> 02:08:23,050
having paranormal experiences if you go

2899
02:08:27,420 --> 02:08:24,520
to spots on the earth and have a

2900
02:08:30,930 --> 02:08:27,430
stronger gravitational field you find

2901
02:08:33,780 --> 02:08:30,940
sacred sites you find pyramids you find

2902
02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:33,790
temples you find places where people

2903
02:08:39,270 --> 02:08:37,180
would go to get sanctuary from strange

2904
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:39,280
things because you know we live in this

2905
02:08:43,170 --> 02:08:41,410
kind of you know backwards age when

2906
02:08:44,970 --> 02:08:43,180
we're out there saying hey I want to see

2907
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:44,980
the weird stuff I want to see the ghosts

2908
02:08:49,110 --> 02:08:47,410
I want to see the UFOs throughout most

2909
02:08:52,650 --> 02:08:49,120
of human history it's been the opposite

2910
02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:52,660
people have not wanted to have these

2911
02:08:58,560 --> 02:08:55,690
experiences and those encounters and so

2912
02:09:01,260 --> 02:08:58,570
it's interesting to see that again it

2913
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:01,270
seems that these areas that people felt

2914
02:09:06,690 --> 02:09:04,330
were safe zones became sacred sites and

2915
02:09:08,760 --> 02:09:06,700
places like this one where people were

2916
02:09:11,790 --> 02:09:08,770
having experiences all the time have

2917
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:11,800
that weaker gravitational field so I

2918
02:09:15,360 --> 02:09:13,810
really believe that we're on the

2919
02:09:18,570 --> 02:09:15,370
precipice of understanding something

2920
02:09:22,190 --> 02:09:18,580
about how gravity relates to the

2921
02:09:24,270 --> 02:09:22,200
paranormal so have a similar scenario

2922
02:09:26,940 --> 02:09:24,280
surrounding the Earth's magnetic field

2923
02:09:29,190 --> 02:09:26,950
and when you have maximum field strength

2924
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:29,200
in close proximity to minimum field

2925
02:09:34,860 --> 02:09:32,530
strength that seem between the two tends

2926
02:09:36,930 --> 02:09:34,870
to be where a paranormal activity is

2927
02:09:38,910 --> 02:09:36,940
reported and oftentimes you'll have a

2928
02:09:40,980 --> 02:09:38,920
grammatical oh there as well that's a

2929
02:09:44,430 --> 02:09:40,990
very good point Christopher because you

2930
02:09:46,740 --> 02:09:44,440
know people often ask me why does it

2931
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:46,750
seem that there are more ghostly

2932
02:09:52,640 --> 02:09:50,050
encounters at night versus the day now

2933
02:09:54,630 --> 02:09:52,650
for one thing that could be a slight

2934
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:54,640
misinterpretation just because that

2935
02:09:59,790 --> 02:09:57,370
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during the day but that said going back

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to the magneto sphere I mean hopefully a

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lot of your listeners have seen this

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what protects us from these harmful rays

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this is a skirt 70 author of us on the

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streets and you're listening to the para

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Cass in case you're wondering why you're

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not hearing a lot from Chris O'Brien

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he's still on the men from that lung

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ailment so I'm just trying to make it

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easy for him and with a guest like

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Joshua P Warren all you have to do is

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ask a question sit back and listen go on

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please well thank you very much gene I

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appreciate that the funny thing is gosh

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I would this that the time is flying by

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here because these are some great topics

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so the side of the Earth's magnetosphere

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that is facing the Sun is compressed

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because it's being blasted by all of

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this solar energy the side that is

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facing away from the Sun the nighttime

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side has the field nice and open and

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expanded and stretching out into space

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so if you look at a profile of this it

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almost looks like Earth has a comet tail

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like the side that's facing the Sun is

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close to the earth and the other side is

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stretching out into the distance this is

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in fact why that you can often pick up

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radio stations at night that you cannot

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pick up during the day that's because

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when the magnetosphere expands it lifts

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the ionosphere and radio signals bounce

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off of the ionosphere at different

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angles and so you can you can hear at

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nighttime stations that might be

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thousands of miles away that you're not

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gonna pick up so well during the day

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this is primarily by the way a

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phenomenon of AM radio stations you

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don't see this FM but the skipping

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phenomenon means for example when I

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first moved to Alabama and I mentioned

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earlier this place I used to work at in

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Piedmont Alabama I could listen to w LS

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from Chicago Illinois

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loud and clear every night or WABC New

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York and other Clear Channel station

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yeah well there you go I mean and this

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is something that who knows maybe I'll

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use that example

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20 years and nobody will know what I'm

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talking about because everything will be

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internet-based amplitude as opposed to

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frequency modulation so yeah yeah and so

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therefore you have a less disrupted

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environment in general at night for

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these subtle electromagnetic frequencies

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and even though we don't understand

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precisely how say a ghost materializes

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just about any researcher who's out

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there in the field on a regular basis

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will tell you that at places where

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people have these experiences you find

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these spontaneous bursts of anomalous

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electromagnetic fields and so there is

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some kind of a connection between these

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things that people describe as ghostly

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experiences and these electromagnetic

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manifestations and so I believe at night

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well that is just a much more calm

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environment in general so that when

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these things won't pay they might be

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able to present themselves because

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they're not being dominated by stronger

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fields and then secondly we notice them

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more as well by the way when it comes to

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say certain times of year like Halloween

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people ask me is there more paranormal

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activity around Halloween well look at

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what's happening in our part of the

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world in the fall the earth is shifting

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away from the Sun so again this is

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another example of how that this might

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apply in terms of the relationship

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between where you're living and what's

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happening in the cosmic environment

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around you as we learn more and more

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things about our crazy corner of the

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universe now in connection I guess just

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very loosely with the fact that you do

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you have this course and if you pass it

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you're gonna get a certification what

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about a movement here to get more

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traditional academic institutions to run

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courses on UFOs and paranormal

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investigation right now you know there

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is obviously the perception that people

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like you and me and Chris well less so

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Chris our fringe people whack adduce

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people who are dealing with fringe

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how do we make all this stuff mainstream

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is there any way to ever do that or are

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we destined to be something that exists

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on the edges red-haired stepchildren

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that too well let me give you an

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absolutely perfect example of what you

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know let me put it this way a perfect

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way of answering your question going

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back to brown Mountain in Western North

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Carolina for over 100 years

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02:19:48,030 --> 02:19:45,760
according to journalistic accounts and

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02:19:50,131 --> 02:19:48,040
perhaps hundreds of years according to

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02:19:52,261 --> 02:19:50,141
some of the local legends people have

3160
02:19:54,540 --> 02:19:52,271
been seeing these multicolored balls of

3161
02:19:56,761 --> 02:19:54,550
light floating around this low-lying

3162
02:19:58,650 --> 02:19:56,771
mountain which is now in the middle of

3163
02:20:00,780 --> 02:19:58,660
the Pisgah National Forest there in

3164
02:20:03,180 --> 02:20:00,790
Western North Carolina they've been

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02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:03,190
studied by scientists all throughout you

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02:20:08,761 --> 02:20:05,290
know the 20th century and in this

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02:20:10,830 --> 02:20:08,771
century and of every caliber you know

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02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:10,840
chemists astronomers physicists you name

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02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:14,410
it and there are every kind of legend

3170
02:20:19,980 --> 02:20:17,290
you can imagine about ghosts and aliens

3171
02:20:22,830 --> 02:20:19,990
and you know interdimensional beings etc

3172
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:22,840
well my team and I spent about 15 years

3173
02:20:28,830 --> 02:20:25,120
camping up there using equipment

3174
02:20:30,780 --> 02:20:28,840
bringing experts with us documenting

3175
02:20:32,160 --> 02:20:30,790
this I mean bringing real scientists

3176
02:20:33,570 --> 02:20:32,170
like I brought a scientist who was a

3177
02:20:34,711 --> 02:20:33,580
physicist at the Oak Ridge National

3178
02:20:37,381 --> 02:20:34,721
Laboratory

3179
02:20:41,070 --> 02:20:37,391
I brought real rocket scientists from

3180
02:20:43,560 --> 02:20:41,080
Ohio State University geologist from the

3181
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the United Nations I believe it or not I

3182
02:20:48,270 --> 02:20:45,880
mean all this kind of stuff and and

3183
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:48,280
documenting these lights and getting

3184
02:20:54,180 --> 02:20:51,040
good footage for the first time and and

3185
02:20:55,740 --> 02:20:54,190
and documenting this interference that

3186
02:20:58,740 --> 02:20:55,750
occurs in the electromagnetic

3187
02:21:01,650 --> 02:20:58,750
environment when they appear etc despite

3188
02:21:04,501 --> 02:21:01,660
all that over the past 10 years or so

3189
02:21:06,450 --> 02:21:04,511
whenever the media has done a story

3190
02:21:10,801 --> 02:21:06,460
about the Brown Mountain lights they

3191
02:21:13,110 --> 02:21:10,811
call me first and I'm the believer you

3192
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know and and they they get my take on it

3193
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then they've turned around and they

3194
02:21:20,881 --> 02:21:17,530
called this guy who is a an astronomer

3195
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:20,891
named dr. Dan Katyn at Appalachian State

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02:21:26,110 --> 02:21:23,650
University and they call him to get the

3197
02:21:29,410 --> 02:21:26,120
quote-unquote skeptics point of view

3198
02:21:30,870 --> 02:21:29,420
and so dr. Katyn for over ten years has

3199
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:30,880
been coming out there in the media

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saying look there's no proof that this

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02:21:37,810 --> 02:21:36,080
stuff even exists and being very

3202
02:21:41,410 --> 02:21:37,820
dismissive there have been all these

3203
02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:41,420
different kinds of of seminars that they

3204
02:21:45,969 --> 02:21:44,450
produced in the area where and and I'm

3205
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:45,979
not afraid to say right here on your

3206
02:21:49,630 --> 02:21:48,050
show this guy has been outright in my

3207
02:21:51,730 --> 02:21:49,640
opinion condescending and arrogant

3208
02:21:53,860 --> 02:21:51,740
toward people for over ten years

3209
02:21:55,599 --> 02:21:53,870
blowing all this off like I haven't seen

3210
02:21:59,950 --> 02:21:55,609
anything well guess what

3211
02:22:01,929 --> 02:21:59,960
last July dr. Daniel Katyn and his

3212
02:22:02,740 --> 02:22:01,939
colleague from Appalachian State

3213
02:22:04,929 --> 02:22:02,750
University

3214
02:22:07,960 --> 02:22:04,939
finally documented the Brown Mountain

3215
02:22:11,260 --> 02:22:07,970
lights they had taken two cameras up

3216
02:22:13,450 --> 02:22:11,270
there themselves that were viewing the

3217
02:22:16,570 --> 02:22:13,460
mountain from obviously to different

3218
02:22:18,010 --> 02:22:16,580
points of view and he he came out and he

3219
02:22:21,370 --> 02:22:18,020
did an interview with the Charlotte

3220
02:22:23,980 --> 02:22:21,380
Observer and NPR and he said look we've

3221
02:22:26,560 --> 02:22:23,990
we've got lots of footage of stars and

3222
02:22:27,969 --> 02:22:26,570
airplanes and lights from traffic and we

3223
02:22:29,530 --> 02:22:27,979
know that all that is but we finally

3224
02:22:32,260 --> 02:22:29,540
captured some lights here we can't

3225
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:32,270
explain and he himself admitted I've

3226
02:22:38,980 --> 02:22:34,490
been very dismissive of all this but I

3227
02:22:40,380 --> 02:22:38,990
shouldn't have been and now that he has

3228
02:22:42,880 --> 02:22:40,390
seen it

3229
02:22:45,010 --> 02:22:42,890
there will probably grant money you know

3230
02:22:48,330 --> 02:22:45,020
spent and and and it's being taken

3231
02:22:51,130 --> 02:22:48,340
seriously so all these years you've had

3232
02:22:53,679 --> 02:22:51,140
hundreds if not thousands of people it

3233
02:22:56,080 --> 02:22:53,689
have seen this stuff we videotaped it

3234
02:22:59,440 --> 02:22:56,090
we've documented it but it didn't become

3235
02:23:01,900 --> 02:22:59,450
something quote-unquote real until this

3236
02:23:06,639 --> 02:23:01,910
fella who was with this university saw

3237
02:23:08,889 --> 02:23:06,649
it and now that this has happened I'm

3238
02:23:11,710 --> 02:23:08,899
sure that everybody's gonna say well no

3239
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:11,720
this this is the man who documented this

3240
02:23:18,040 --> 02:23:13,760
phenomenon properly for the first time

3241
02:23:19,679 --> 02:23:18,050
and so what you what you realize and

3242
02:23:22,540 --> 02:23:19,689
I've known this for a long time is that

3243
02:23:23,800 --> 02:23:22,550
when you decide to go into this field

3244
02:23:26,500 --> 02:23:23,810
that we call the paranormal

3245
02:23:28,810 --> 02:23:26,510
investigation field it is a blessing

3246
02:23:31,000 --> 02:23:28,820
because you often get to be the first

3247
02:23:33,610 --> 02:23:31,010
person to see some of these

3248
02:23:37,000 --> 02:23:33,620
extraordinary things but it's also a bit

3249
02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:37,010
of a curse because you are only going to

3250
02:23:42,090 --> 02:23:39,250
be relevant to the conversation so along

3251
02:23:45,420 --> 02:23:42,100
it remains paranormal in other words

3252
02:23:48,140 --> 02:23:45,430
here to sum up what this means here is

3253
02:23:50,820 --> 02:23:48,150
you may be the pioneer who helps

3254
02:23:53,310 --> 02:23:50,830
encourage people to take it seriously

3255
02:23:56,640 --> 02:23:53,320
gives people a focal point to

3256
02:23:58,680 --> 02:23:56,650
investigate all these claims all these

3257
02:24:01,350 --> 02:23:58,690
incidents but as soon as mainstream

3258
02:24:03,420 --> 02:24:01,360
science picks up on it they won't

3259
02:24:05,100 --> 02:24:03,430
remember you they won't remember me they

3260
02:24:07,920 --> 02:24:05,110
won't remember Chris it may not be a

3261
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power cast unless we continue looking at

3262
02:24:12,360 --> 02:24:10,180
unexplored mysteries unexplained

3263
02:24:15,410 --> 02:24:12,370
mysteries and we continue to find new

3264
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:15,420
stuff to continue to investigate because

3265
02:24:21,810 --> 02:24:17,770
that's the way it will continue to be

3266
02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:21,820
we've got more to come with Joshua p1n

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3352
02:29:00,030 --> 02:28:57,430
hi Cameron from presidential you for

3353
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3354
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the gold standard of paranormal and

3355
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final segment with Joshua P Warren and

3356
02:29:18,030 --> 02:29:14,110
Jean and Chris and we're focusing on a

3357
02:29:20,341 --> 02:29:18,040
whole number of paranormal mysteries

3358
02:29:23,190 --> 02:29:20,351
we're gonna hopefully look at a wishing

3359
02:29:26,491 --> 02:29:23,200
machine or a radionics box so I give you

3360
02:29:29,011 --> 02:29:26,501
my review not a technology review for

3361
02:29:29,791 --> 02:29:29,021
the tech night owl but we're gonna see

3362
02:29:32,970 --> 02:29:29,801
how it works

3363
02:29:36,020 --> 02:29:32,980
how my crazy life might be impacted by a

3364
02:29:39,390 --> 02:29:36,030
machine of this sort and boy it's crazy

3365
02:29:41,161 --> 02:29:39,400
Joshua Warren over the years here you've

3366
02:29:43,470 --> 02:29:41,171
been doing it for a while do you think

3367
02:29:46,051 --> 02:29:43,480
we've made any real progress towards

3368
02:29:48,301 --> 02:29:46,061
achieving what might be a victory in

3369
02:29:49,741 --> 02:29:48,311
getting more mainstream people to look

3370
02:29:52,530 --> 02:29:49,751
at some of these mysteries you mentioned

3371
02:29:54,270 --> 02:29:52,540
the Brown Mountain lights as an example

3372
02:29:56,751 --> 02:29:54,280
what else is gonna come what do you

3373
02:29:59,610 --> 02:29:56,761
think is gonna be next well you know

3374
02:30:02,610 --> 02:29:59,620
this is a very interesting double edged

3375
02:30:05,461 --> 02:30:02,620
sword because we now have this

3376
02:30:08,041 --> 02:30:05,471
incredible era when everybody

3377
02:30:10,381 --> 02:30:08,051
practically is running around with a

3378
02:30:12,121 --> 02:30:10,391
camera in his or her pocket this is you

3379
02:30:14,251 --> 02:30:12,131
know this has never happened every

3380
02:30:15,991 --> 02:30:14,261
person who's got a cell phone I hardly

3381
02:30:18,801 --> 02:30:16,001
ever see a cell phone that can't take a

3382
02:30:21,511 --> 02:30:18,811
picture these days and so you have this

3383
02:30:23,371 --> 02:30:21,521
incredible amount of potential

3384
02:30:25,461 --> 02:30:23,381
photographers out there all over the

3385
02:30:28,020 --> 02:30:25,471
world they're taking pictures like crazy

3386
02:30:30,091 --> 02:30:28,030
there's security cameras all over the

3387
02:30:32,180 --> 02:30:30,101
place there's dash cams I mean you know

3388
02:30:35,220 --> 02:30:32,190
it's like there's a car wreck and

3389
02:30:37,980 --> 02:30:35,230
somebody captures it so you think to

3390
02:30:41,220 --> 02:30:37,990
yourself wow in that case there ought to

3391
02:30:42,661 --> 02:30:41,230
be a ton of evidence finally you know

3392
02:30:46,140 --> 02:30:42,671
people should be getting ghosts and UFOs

3393
02:30:48,751 --> 02:30:46,150
all the time the funny thing is we do

3394
02:30:51,270 --> 02:30:48,761
get bombarded certainly I do every day

3395
02:30:53,461 --> 02:30:51,280
people contact me I mean every week I

3396
02:30:56,070 --> 02:30:53,471
get probably at least I would say at

3397
02:30:58,171 --> 02:30:56,080
least seventy five to a hundred people

3398
02:31:01,591 --> 02:30:58,181
that were just sending me images to look

3399
02:31:04,051 --> 02:31:01,601
at every week they have captured UFOs

3400
02:31:08,011 --> 02:31:04,061
they've captured ghosts but at the same

3401
02:31:10,440 --> 02:31:08,021
time you have software out there that is

3402
02:31:13,201 --> 02:31:10,450
specifically designed to hoax this stuff

3403
02:31:15,631 --> 02:31:13,211
people can go and download these apps

3404
02:31:17,881 --> 02:31:15,641
and I'm not gonna give out the names the

3405
02:31:19,690 --> 02:31:17,891
apps I guarantee you that that literally

3406
02:31:22,120 --> 02:31:19,700
let you insert ghosts

3407
02:31:23,980 --> 02:31:22,130
UFOs and crazy things into your pictures

3408
02:31:26,770 --> 02:31:23,990
the same technology that has allowed us

3409
02:31:29,220 --> 02:31:26,780
to more easily document this stuff also

3410
02:31:33,100 --> 02:31:29,230
allows people to more easily hoax it and

3411
02:31:34,540 --> 02:31:33,110
so what we're dealing with now is in

3412
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:34,550
some ways going back to a more

3413
02:31:40,000 --> 02:31:37,610
old-fashioned methods which means if you

3414
02:31:41,620 --> 02:31:40,010
send me an image of something that

3415
02:31:44,350 --> 02:31:41,630
you've captured that it's supposed to be

3416
02:31:47,290 --> 02:31:44,360
paranormal and you ask me to analyze it

3417
02:31:50,140 --> 02:31:47,300
I'm not just going to analyze that image

3418
02:31:53,560 --> 02:31:50,150
for what the image is I also want to

3419
02:31:56,381 --> 02:31:53,570
talk to you and I want you to tell me

3420
02:31:58,660 --> 02:31:56,391
that you took that picture and I want

3421
02:32:00,881 --> 02:31:58,670
you to tell me when you took it what the

3422
02:32:02,770 --> 02:32:00,891
weather was like and I want you to show

3423
02:32:05,110 --> 02:32:02,780
me pictures that you took before you

3424
02:32:06,910 --> 02:32:05,120
took that picture and maybe pictures you

3425
02:32:09,341 --> 02:32:06,920
took after you took that picture and

3426
02:32:12,460 --> 02:32:09,351
there are all these kind of more like

3427
02:32:14,770 --> 02:32:12,470
organic fundamental journalistic things

3428
02:32:18,100 --> 02:32:14,780
that you would do in order to place this

3429
02:32:20,310 --> 02:32:18,110
image in context before I'm gonna go out

3430
02:32:24,091 --> 02:32:20,320
there and draw some conclusion about its

3431
02:32:26,860 --> 02:32:24,101
legitimacy and so I think that right now

3432
02:32:28,870 --> 02:32:26,870
it's still relatively new that we have

3433
02:32:32,921 --> 02:32:28,880
so much of this stuff being presented

3434
02:32:35,080 --> 02:32:32,931
but this year I am working on a project

3435
02:32:36,610 --> 02:32:35,090
we're in the early stages soon I'll be

3436
02:32:38,950 --> 02:32:36,620
able to talk about this a little bit

3437
02:32:42,131 --> 02:32:38,960
more once everything is solidified but

3438
02:32:43,841 --> 02:32:42,141
I'm working on a project with a handful

3439
02:32:46,810 --> 02:32:43,851
of other researchers that is

3440
02:32:49,140 --> 02:32:46,820
unprecedented as well we are going to be

3441
02:32:52,330 --> 02:32:49,150
going to some extremely active

3442
02:32:55,841 --> 02:32:52,340
paranormal hotspots and we are going to

3443
02:32:58,091 --> 02:32:55,851
set up a number of cameras because you

3444
02:32:59,801 --> 02:32:58,101
know it just takes two cameras for a 3d

3445
02:33:02,710 --> 02:32:59,811
image we're gonna set up five to ten

3446
02:33:05,290 --> 02:33:02,720
cameras all focused on a particular

3447
02:33:07,360 --> 02:33:05,300
hotspot it's going to be a very

3448
02:33:09,910 --> 02:33:07,370
controlled process we're going to

3449
02:33:12,551 --> 02:33:09,920
document ourselves setting it up and

3450
02:33:15,881 --> 02:33:12,561
once we capture some of these things

3451
02:33:18,610 --> 02:33:15,891
that have never been seen before in this

3452
02:33:21,011 --> 02:33:18,620
way we are going to take lie detector

3453
02:33:25,091 --> 02:33:21,021
tests to do everything within our power

3454
02:33:28,210 --> 02:33:25,101
to demonstrate that we have not tampered

3455
02:33:30,370 --> 02:33:28,220
with this or in any way you know altered

3456
02:33:32,770 --> 02:33:30,380
what is being presented and at that

3457
02:33:33,460 --> 02:33:32,780
point hopefully we can at least resolve

3458
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:33,470
this

3459
02:33:38,590 --> 02:33:35,930
of weather and I ghosts are real or

3460
02:33:41,700 --> 02:33:38,600
maybe some of these flying saucers etc

3461
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:41,710
are real Oh list of possible

3462
02:33:46,780 --> 02:33:44,930
destinations so from this yeah well I'm

3463
02:33:50,679 --> 02:33:46,790
still open I'm wide open to getting you

3464
02:33:53,050 --> 02:33:50,689
know access to any great location we're

3465
02:33:55,030 --> 02:33:53,060
calling this the Mobius mission we have

3466
02:33:57,160 --> 02:33:55,040
a good budget for it already I'd like

3467
02:33:58,900 --> 02:33:57,170
everybody listening to your program to

3468
02:34:01,000 --> 02:33:58,910
know that if they would like to be among

3469
02:34:03,880 --> 02:34:01,010
the very first people to see some of the

3470
02:34:06,700 --> 02:34:03,890
images that we capture if you go to my

3471
02:34:08,910 --> 02:34:06,710
website Joshua P Warren comm you can

3472
02:34:10,479 --> 02:34:08,920
just sign up for my free newsletter

3473
02:34:12,429 --> 02:34:10,489
there

3474
02:34:14,110 --> 02:34:12,439
these are personal newsletters that I

3475
02:34:15,790 --> 02:34:14,120
send out I type them with my own little

3476
02:34:18,250 --> 02:34:15,800
fingers there and you'll be among the

3477
02:34:21,429 --> 02:34:18,260
first to see this stuff but this year I

3478
02:34:23,380 --> 02:34:21,439
made a bold Proclamation earlier that I

3479
02:34:25,750 --> 02:34:23,390
believe this is going to be the year

3480
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:25,760
when we finally are able to at least get

3481
02:34:31,840 --> 02:34:28,160
enough evidence to answer the question

3482
02:34:34,090 --> 02:34:31,850
as to whether or not ghosts are real for

3483
02:34:36,519 --> 02:34:34,100
everybody then we can move on to okay

3484
02:34:38,849 --> 02:34:36,529
what are they cool come here man if you

3485
02:34:41,320 --> 02:34:38,859
need an extra investigator I'm your man

3486
02:34:43,150 --> 02:34:41,330
good well thank you very much for that

3487
02:34:45,250 --> 02:34:43,160
Christopher I appreciate it him and I

3488
02:34:48,010 --> 02:34:45,260
want everybody to sort of realize that

3489
02:34:49,540 --> 02:34:48,020
when I saw my first ghost I was in the

3490
02:34:52,360 --> 02:34:49,550
room I was in an attic actually with

3491
02:34:54,610 --> 02:34:52,370
another researcher we both saw it he was

3492
02:34:57,790 --> 02:34:54,620
on one side I was on the other we both

3493
02:35:00,250 --> 02:34:57,800
touched it I photographed it what more

3494
02:35:02,260 --> 02:35:00,260
can I do III don't have a Ghostbusters

3495
02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:02,270
trap that I can kick out there and stomp

3496
02:35:07,030 --> 02:35:04,250
to stuck the thing in and you know

3497
02:35:09,849 --> 02:35:07,040
release it into a jar in my museum I I

3498
02:35:11,620 --> 02:35:09,859
became very frustrated that I was able

3499
02:35:13,150 --> 02:35:11,630
to see something with another person

3500
02:35:15,070 --> 02:35:13,160
there from two different angles we both

3501
02:35:17,740 --> 02:35:15,080
touched it I took a picture of it and

3502
02:35:19,300 --> 02:35:17,750
still it didn't resolve the question of

3503
02:35:20,830 --> 02:35:19,310
whether or not ghosts are real well this

3504
02:35:23,110 --> 02:35:20,840
experiment that we're gonna do this

3505
02:35:25,179 --> 02:35:23,120
project that we're gonna do this is

3506
02:35:27,190 --> 02:35:25,189
gonna be everything that we can do to at

3507
02:35:29,650 --> 02:35:27,200
least resolve that question so anybody

3508
02:35:31,750 --> 02:35:29,660
out there has got access to some really

3509
02:35:33,460 --> 02:35:31,760
cool locations that might be perfect for

3510
02:35:35,530 --> 02:35:33,470
this please contact me through my

3511
02:35:37,210 --> 02:35:35,540
website and let me know Kris will talk

3512
02:35:38,950 --> 02:35:37,220
to you about this and this will be very

3513
02:35:41,440 --> 02:35:38,960
interesting to see if you focus on some

3514
02:35:43,929 --> 02:35:41,450
of the areas he's looking into in the

3515
02:35:45,880 --> 02:35:43,939
next minute and a half or so Joshua P

3516
02:35:46,770 --> 02:35:45,890
Warren would you tell our listeners one

3517
02:35:48,631 --> 02:35:46,780
more time about

3518
02:35:54,511 --> 02:35:48,641
this course well thank you very much

3519
02:35:57,270 --> 02:35:54,521
this is I believe 100% the best most

3520
02:36:01,110 --> 02:35:57,280
comprehensive paranormal investigation

3521
02:36:04,110 --> 02:36:01,120
and really metaphysics course that has

3522
02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:04,120
ever been produced and that's because I

3523
02:36:09,330 --> 02:36:06,730
have done my best to take many many

3524
02:36:11,761 --> 02:36:09,340
years of research not just my own but

3525
02:36:13,591 --> 02:36:11,771
also great things I've adapted from

3526
02:36:16,830 --> 02:36:13,601
others and sort of condensed it down

3527
02:36:18,270 --> 02:36:16,840
into the real meat and it's extremely

3528
02:36:21,690 --> 02:36:18,280
interactive we're going to dig into

3529
02:36:24,950 --> 02:36:21,700
ghosts spiritual activity of all kinds

3530
02:36:29,480 --> 02:36:24,960
angels demons interdimensional beings

3531
02:36:33,780 --> 02:36:29,490
ghosts not only ghosts but et alien

3532
02:36:36,450 --> 02:36:33,790
cryptid psychic phenomena magic it

3533
02:36:38,671 --> 02:36:36,460
really is a little bit of everything and

3534
02:36:41,251 --> 02:36:38,681
it's going to be live and interactive

3535
02:36:42,270 --> 02:36:41,261
it's gonna happen one time only if you

3536
02:36:44,671 --> 02:36:42,280
go right now

3537
02:36:46,980 --> 02:36:44,681
- Joshua P Warren comm and click the

3538
02:36:49,530 --> 02:36:46,990
link for the classes if I have extended

3539
02:36:51,180 --> 02:36:49,540
the discount fine if not you just let me

3540
02:36:53,160 --> 02:36:51,190
know that you heard about it here on the

3541
02:36:55,200 --> 02:36:53,170
para cast and I'll make sure that you

3542
02:36:57,360 --> 02:36:55,210
get the discount for the classes and

3543
02:36:59,910 --> 02:36:57,370
you're gonna have access to everything

3544
02:37:02,310 --> 02:36:59,920
that I can offer you after that if you

3545
02:37:04,440 --> 02:37:02,320
want to get into this crazy business

3546
02:37:06,870 --> 02:37:04,450
this crazy world of research that we

3547
02:37:10,381 --> 02:37:06,880
call the paranormal field and listeners

3548
02:37:12,690 --> 02:37:10,391
when I get his radionics device I will

3549
02:37:14,251 --> 02:37:12,700
give it the old college try and we'll

3550
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:14,261
see just how it works and what kind of

3551
02:37:18,631 --> 02:37:16,570
reaction I have to it how's that

3552
02:37:22,230 --> 02:37:18,641
you're a perfect crash-test dummy for

3553
02:37:26,580 --> 02:37:22,240
that thing yes we don't put the D word

3554
02:37:29,011 --> 02:37:26,590
too strongly there okay as we speak by

3555
02:37:32,280 --> 02:37:29,021
the way I have a sign on my iPhone

3556
02:37:34,230 --> 02:37:32,290
saying suspected spam it's coming my way

3557
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:34,240
being attacked by something here you

3558
02:37:38,430 --> 02:37:36,250
could find us of course on Twitter if

3559
02:37:40,650 --> 02:37:38,440
you look for the para casts take a

3560
02:37:43,801 --> 02:37:40,660
gander for the para cast on Twitter we

3561
02:37:47,011 --> 02:37:43,811
have two para cast fan clubs a group and

3562
02:37:49,290 --> 02:37:47,021
a community on Facebook choose which one

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02:37:51,150 --> 02:37:49,300
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3564
02:37:53,940 --> 02:37:51,160
show that we do called after the power

3565
02:37:56,461 --> 02:37:53,950
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3566
02:37:58,380 --> 02:37:56,471
this show different guests like we've

3567
02:38:00,630 --> 02:37:58,390
had Nick Pope on

3568
02:38:03,479 --> 02:38:00,640
to the power Cass and Paul Kimball and

3569
02:38:06,090 --> 02:38:03,489
dr. Lynn key tie this past week to talk

3570
02:38:07,679 --> 02:38:06,100
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3571
02:38:11,010 --> 02:38:07,689
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3583
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3584
02:38:47,639 --> 02:38:44,710
fun as usual with Joshua Warren thank

3585
02:39:03,179 --> 02:38:47,649
you for joining us on the para cast Hey

3586
02:39:09,699 --> 02:39:06,670
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3587
02:39:12,569 --> 02:39:09,709
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3588
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